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Re: CHARLTON - Harrold and Felmersham
« Reply #9 on: Friday 20 February 15 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Samuel CHARLTON married Mary Jeffreys at Kempston on 21 Sep 1784 with them both buried there in April 1792.
His parents appear to have been William Charlton & Judith SWANNELL who married at Felmersham 30 Jan 1759. Samuel was baptised at Harrold 22 Sep 1760.

Hello.... What proof if any, or any other circumstantial evidence, have you got that Samuel Charlton who married at Kempston in 1784 is the Samuel baptised at Harrold in 1760. Is it just that he's the best fit based on his age.

Back to the marriage which was by licence, the transcript for which dated 17 Sept 1784 is for Samuel Charlton, wheelwright of Kempston age 21+ to marry Mary Jeffries, daughter of Thomas, minor.......surety given by Thomas Jeffries, grocer of Kempston. 

Interesting to note that soon after Samuel died in Apr 1792 widow Mary married Charles Mardling again by licence; which states that he too was a whhelwright of Kempston, surety again by Thomas Jeffries, shopkeeper.   

This leads me to a record from Beds Archives ref BC204 dated 5 May 1790 regarding a 21 year lease of messuage & arable fields in Marston & Wootton, assigned from Henry Charlton, yeoman of Wollaston, Northants and Samuel Charlton, wheelwright of Kempston to James Cook, shepherd of Kempston. 

Another Archives record ref PUBZ3/1/118 dated 24 Oct 1780 is regarding William Rutter of St Pauls Bedford, son of Thomas Rutter, being a bound apprentice to Samuel Chaulton, wheelwright of Kempston for 7 years. However after 5yrs 6mths Chaulton died (April 1792) 

It'd be good to check Wollaston record to see if there's a link between Henry & Samuel.

Cheers John
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Re: CHARLTON - Harrold and Felmersham
« Reply #10 on: Friday 20 February 15 15:51 GMT (UK) »
John

I said assumed because that was the only baptism I could find in the right age range in Beds. However, I have noticed that not all sources equate CHARLTON with spellings such as CHALTON so I shall dig further.

The Henry CHARLTON referred is presumably the elder of 2 sons of Sam CHARLTON baptised at Wollaston (Henry 1772, John 1775) (Freereg).
There is a baptism of Samuel son of Samuel at Easton Maudit, NTH in 1765 but he would (probably) not been of age in 1784! But no other baptism

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Re: CHARLTON - Harrold and Felmersham
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 21 February 15 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Wollaston parish registers are also transcribed on Rushden Heritage website...
http://www.rushdenheritage.co.uk/Villages/index-villages.html
 
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Re: CHARLTON - Harrold and Felmersham
« Reply #12 on: Monday 23 February 15 10:35 GMT (UK) »
John

Its fascinating trying to sort out the connection (or not)

and two marriages by license at Northampton St Mary of CHARLTONs from Harrold!
25 May 1721 Samuel CHARLTON to Judith MARSHALL of Kingsthorpe (but born Carlton)
14 July 1737 Samuel CHARLTON to Rose Granborough of Brafield on the Green

apparently both of the same Samuel (son of Samuel of Wootton according to BLARS c523)


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Re: CHARLTON - Harrold and Felmersham
« Reply #13 on: Monday 23 February 15 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Hello Peter

Does it say that Samuel Charlton was a widower on his marriage to Rose ?

However it all seems feasible...

4/2/1708-9 Mary, wife of Samuel Charlton (senior) buried Harrold
25/5/1721 Samuel Charlton married Judith Marshall
16/1/1723-24 "Marchal of" Samuel & Judith Charlton baptised Harrold
7/5/1726 un-named son of Samuel & Judith Charlton buried at Carlton
6/8/1733 Judith, wife Samuel Charlton of Harrold buried at Carlton
19/3/1735 Samuel Charlton, senior buried Harrold
14/7/1737 Samuel Charlton married Rose Granborough
20/3/1746-7 Rose, wife of Samuel Charlton, farmer buried Harrold
1/4/1760 Samuel Chaulton, farmer buried Harrold (Admon A 1760/14)   

The BLARS document VC526 dated 1745 states Michael, son & heir of Samuel Charlton & Rose his wife.... is he Marchal/Marshall? mentioned in BLARS doc X825/3 dated Dec 1763 eldest son and heir of Samuel Charlton late of Harrold, yeoman and Judith his wife. I've not fould death/burial of Michael Charlton but Marshall Chalton, husbandman is buried Goldington on 25/11/1770 (Admon A 1771/13)
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Re: CHARLTON - Harrold and Felmersham
« Reply #14 on: Monday 23 February 15 13:12 GMT (UK) »
John

I haven't been able to check the license re Samuel's status on his marriage to Rose but it makes more sense of the 1745 reference for Rose to Samuel's wife than the wife of a 21 year old Marshall.

Samuel's children
16/1/1723-24 "Marchal of" Samuel & Judith Charlton baptised Harrold and buried Goldington 25 Nov 1770
7/5/1726 un-named son of Samuel & Judith Charlton buried at Carlton

and presumably also
ca 1730 William Charlton buried Carlton 1/3/1767 (married to Judith SWANNELL 30/1/1759)
ca 1730 Judith Charlton married William Bitherey at Harrold 2 Jan 1755 by license

A mortgage of 7/12/1763 document refers to Marshall Charlton (eldest son and heir of Samuel Charlton late of Harrold, yeoman and Judith his wife)
but makes no mention of any other (living) sons (e.g. William)

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Re: CHARLTON - Harrold and Felmersham
« Reply #15 on: Monday 23 February 15 13:32 GMT (UK) »
There's 2 BLARS reference L7/93 & GA 1055 dated 1762 that relates to Dungey farmhouse in Harrold...late occupied by Marshall Charlton & William Charlton.... could this be where the family lived with father Samuel who was buried 1 Apr 1760

Therefore.... William is also son of Samuel, but younger than Marshall.... and they had sister Judith (named after her mother) & married to William's "brother" William Bithray in 1755
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Re: CHARLTON - Harrold and Felmersham
« Reply #16 on: Monday 23 February 15 13:37 GMT (UK) »
John

thanks I hadn't managed to find those two references.
Any thoughts on why the baptisms of William & Judith can't be found? Are some of the likely registers
damaged in places?


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Re: CHARLTON - Harrold and Felmersham
« Reply #17 on: Monday 23 February 15 14:13 GMT (UK) »
There is no mention of missing pages in the transcript of Harrold & Carlton baptisms for that period.

Snippet from the 'Diary of Benjamin Rogers, Rector of Carlton'
31 Dec 1734.... I returned home this morning and Mr Charlton seeing me as I came through his close, he paid me for breaking up the ground in my churchyard for burying his wife & child, 6s 8d each.

If this is Samuel Charlton, then is this wife Judith buried Aug 1733...  there is no mention of a child baptised or buried then, unless it refers to the un-named son buried May 1726?   
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