John Batchelor born circa 1800 in Barby, Northants.

[ragt39]

I am researching a Batchelor family and have a John Batchelor born around 1800 in Barby, Northants. John Batchelor had married Mary Edmunds in 1817 and they both appear on the 1841, 1851 & 1861 censuses and it clearly indicates John was born in Barby.  Can anyone help me verify John Batchelor's birth/baptism in Barby - several other Ancestry family trees show him to be the son of George Batchelor & Mary French but they did not get married until 1803.  On the census records John Batchelor's age was given as 40 (1841), 51 (1851) & 61 (1861).

[sugarbakers]

A puzzle indeed.

The Northants Baptisms do not show any bpts for John Ba(t)chel(d)or of Barby between 1780 and 1804 (which of course may have been a late bpt).
Similarly the Northants Marriages Index does not show a Mary French marriage to George Batchelor.

Other than the 1804 bpt, this one could fit the bill in the next parish ...

John Bachelor s/o William & Hannah bpt 25 Dec 1799 at Kilsby.

Bryan

[lizdb]

Perhaps he was born before the marriage, chr under the name French, but took the name of his stepfather after his mum married/remarried.

[sugarbakers]

Indeed, Liz ...

From the Northants Baptisms Index

John Knib French s/o Mary French bpt 1800 Apr 20 at Boddington C of E illegitimate

 

... but John Knib French married in Boddington in 1824

Have looked at the A***y trees but can't prove the Mary French / George Batchelor connections. Neither do the census links match JB of Barby !!

Have found correct censuses, but they give no more to go on.

Bryan

[ragt39]

The marriage of George Batchelor & Mary French was in Rugby, Warks.

[sugarbakers]

Yes, the banns and marriage are online, but can you tell us, please, how George and/or Mary are linked to Barby, or even Northants. Is there census evidence ?

Bryan

[ragt39]

As I mentioned in my initial posting it was only other Ancestry Public Members family trees that were showing John Batchelor (b.1800, Barby, Northants) as being the son of George Batchelor & Mary French.  If you look at those trees having the marriage of George Batchelor & Mary French married 2 July 1803 in Rugby they also show John Batchelor as born to them in 1800 in Barby.  These trees are -
Dunne Family Tree
Fletcher Family tree
Irene Ashelman Family tree
Maule family tree

I've tried contacting the owners of these trees but no reply to date.

[sugarbakers]

Ummm ... Public trees without sources    At the moment I think they are only muddying the waters.

In your research, ragt39, I assume you have got back to John Batchelor of Barby in the censuses, and maybe his marriage. Can you list his children here for us, please ... might help.

Bryan