samuel goodsell who married a amy phoebe alice smith

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Slight mis-spelling

Dorothy Eileen Goodsall
Q1 1910  Portsmouth, Vol 2b, p481

[Mabel Bagshawe]

His naval record may or may not help, given he'd left by 1911

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6708130

[mikal83]

Purchasing a copy of the marriage certificate will confirm forenames of the groom - alternatively if you purchased a copy of one of his daughter's birth certificates.
Not able to see the birth for Dorothy on FreeBMD but can see the following:

Third Quarter 1911
GOODSELL Ethel M - Mother's maiden name Smith - Portsmouth - Vol 2b - Page 284
and
Third Quarter 1912
GOODSELL Ivy - Mother's maiden name Smith - Portsmouth - Vol 2b - Page 994

Thanks Priiscilla, I have my grans details from my MUm. Its her father thats proving to be the fun part. As earlier, we all thought he was called samuel but as per a post above, a James John Goodsell married a Amy Phoebe A Smith in POrtsmouth and I sincerley doubt there were 2 ladies with that name around at the same time, so it seems as if he wasnt a samuel but a james john!

[mikal83]

His naval record may or may not help, given he'd left by 1911

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6708130

Thanks Mabel but please see my post re Samuel v James John

[mikal83]

OK forget all the Samuel v James John. The 1911 census shows a Samuel John married to a Amy Phoebe Alice with a daughter aged 1 called Dorothy...THis IS the right one. So where did he go as he did a runner after my great Aunt was born

[Lostris]

Not as easy to find post-1911 as it was pre-1911 - you did see the 2 lots of census details formatted earlier in the thread ?

Emigration, Street Directories (eg Portsmouth & environs), Rates books, 1939 NI records, Death Index, Wills - tried all those resources ?

[mikal83]

am on it now...sort of. Found a Samuel John in the 1891 census living in Lambeth which is right next to Battersea which is in Wandsworth. Born 1881 so that must be him

[mikal83]

His naval record may or may not help, given he'd left by 1911

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6708130

Now this isnt fun. In the 1911 census he has his DOB as 1880 born battersea. In Battersea in june 1881 a Samuel John Goodsell was also born. Would he have known when he was born? The sailor in the above was also born in Battersea but now in 1882.  Oh dear..............

[Lostris]

am on it now...sort of. Found a Samuel John in the 1891 census living in Lambeth which is right next to Battersea which is in Wandsworth. Born 1881 so that must be him

I formatted the Census finding for you in my 1st posting .... dont worry about a year or two - it matches well to his FreeBMD Birth Index entry ... and he is consistant about PoB being Battersea in 1891, 1901 & 1911