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Offline aghadowey

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Re: Date of conception to date of birth?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 19 March 15 10:34 GMT (UK) »
No - in Australia the birth is registered not the baptism. Though I do believe certain baptism church records are held at the State Library in SA (note: I live in NSW, so would never be able to check) and  I don't even know if there was a baptism or if there was, which church that would be.

I meant a church record of the baptisms. I've found cases where a child's baptism was performed before the birthdate given on the birth certificate. Also, if the child was not her husband's and the clergyman knew the family circumstances he might have made a note in the register or left the father's name blank.
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Re: Date of conception to date of birth?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 19 March 15 10:44 GMT (UK) »
I would echo what Aghadowey says in the first post.    My own mother always swore that both myself and one of my brothers were born at least month later than the expected date.     I always thought that she just got her dates wrong but have since found records of other similar cases.
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Re: Date of conception to date of birth?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 19 March 15 10:57 GMT (UK) »
[quote I meant a church record of the baptisms. [/quote]

Okay I will clarify: No I have never ever checked for a baptism. I do not know if a baptism occurred or even what church that would have been at if there was one.

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Re: Date of conception to date of birth?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 19 March 15 21:31 GMT (UK) »
 We were taught to calculate thus:-from the first day of the last menstruation add 7 days( no matter how long it actually lasted)then 9 calendar months.It has worked to within a couple of days for my three children.
There can be a variant of up to two weeks of course but longer than that and there are often complications as has been stated already.
 People could easily get dates wrong I am sure, poor people did not keep diaries and probably did not have  calendars on their kitchen walls.However if her husband was in an asylum you could perhaps find what date he was admitted.

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Re: Date of conception to date of birth?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 19 March 15 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Formulas and calculations are all very well but sometimes babies just come when they are ready  ;D
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Re: Date of conception to date of birth?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 19 March 15 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Formulas and calculations are all very well but sometimes babies just come when they are ready  ;D

But this one does seem a tight squeeze within a "normal" pregnancy time frame  ???  ;D

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Sounds more probable  ??? Sorry !!!  ;D

None-the-less.........the timescale is not impossible i.e. inconclusive  ??? ;D ::)

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Re: Date of conception to date of birth?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 19 March 15 22:58 GMT (UK) »
....However if her husband was in an asylum you could perhaps find what date he was admitted...

I think this is an excellent suggestion. If the asylum was nearby perhaps she had conjugal visits.  ;)

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Re: Date of conception to date of birth?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 20 March 15 07:39 GMT (UK) »
All

someone above suggested I get the admittance date Richard entered the Adelaide Asylum. In fact I did order this yesterday and received a copy today:

He was admitted on the  20th July 1881 for 'money matters'. One of the questions is Whether dangerous to others - the answer given is 'often threatens his wife'.

Under the state of admission it has: (where I have blank - I can't work out the word)

General Health: Is (blank). Body will nourished.
Spiritual condition: is much demented. Powers of speech much affected. (Blank) in energy

September 27 1881 died this day of (blank) and exhaustion.

So based on that, I think my original thought is correct.
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Re: Date of conception to date of birth?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 20 March 15 07:45 GMT (UK) »
General Health is FEEBLE.

Died this day of PARALYSIS and exhaustion.

My thoughts are that if he was not a well man then perhaps she had already found a new chap.
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