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Mary Wilkinson 1700's Yorkshire
« on: Thursday 19 March 15 23:52 GMT (UK) »
Doing research for my Robert Brough chr. 30 Sep 1767, Hessle by Hull. He was married to a Mary Wilkinson, 11 Oct 1790 in Kingston Upon Hull.

One family tree lists Mary Wilkinson chr. 3 Sep 1769, Aughton near Selby, Yorkshire as Robert's wife. Aughton is about 35 miles from Hull. It seems like he would have married someone closer, though of course not always.

I have found two other Mary Wilkinsons that seem a better fit.
1. Mary Wilkinson chr. 21 Aug 1768, Cottingham, Yorkshire
2. Mary Wilkinson chr. 12 June 1761, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire

Does anyone know anything about these three Mary Wilkinsons? Who they might have married, did they die young, etc?

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Re: Mary Wilkinson 1700's Yorkshire
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 March 15 18:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Broughps

Here are some thoughts about your problem.

I have looked at the on-line tree and note that there is no date of death for Robert or Mary. Before you start considering which Mary Wilkinson may be a candidate for Robert's wife you need to try and get a handle on her age. At this time frame she could be as young as 15 or 16 or as old as 35 when she married. (Last child at age circa 47 or 48) They did not have a lot of children. Is this because she died or Robert died? Or was she older than Robert? Certainly they did not make it to the 1841 Census. Unless Robert died fairly young and she remarried.

What does the marriage record say? Any clues as to age. I think Robert may be a widower because there is a child baptized in Hessle (Ann) the year before he married Mary Wilkinson that the tree owner has included. It is possible Mary was a widow in which case you are not looking for a Mary Wilkinson at all. Who were the marriage witnesses? Any clue there?

I would look for Mary's death and hope that her age at death is given as that will narrow down the field.
And Robert's death too as I am not sure how the identity of Robert has been arrived at.

I was going to suggest that you contact the tree owner, but following the only child that lived to any great age (James), there is a marriage but no descendants so it appears the tree owner is not closely related. The source is given as the Brough Global Database which may or may not to accurate.

Regarding Aughton's distance from Hull the handy tool on GenUKI says it is 25 miles not 35. Also not too distant from the River Derwent which flows into the Humber which then goes down past Hessle to Hull. Do you know what Robert's occupation was? I am thinking maybe the Broughs or the Wilkinsons were watermen. Plenty of opportunity to meet lots of girls if you are going up and down the waterways.

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Re: Mary Wilkinson 1700's Yorkshire
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 March 15 19:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Broughps

Here are some thoughts about your problem.

I have looked at the on-line tree and note that there is no date of death for Robert or Mary. Before you start considering which Mary Wilkinson may be a candidate for Robert's wife you need to try and get a handle on her age. At this time frame she could be as young as 15 or 16 or as old as 35 when she married. (Last child at age circa 47 or 48) They did not have a lot of children. Is this because she died or Robert died? Or was she older than Robert? Certainly they did not make it to the 1841 Census. Unless Robert died fairly young and she remarried.

There is a Robert Brough b. 1 Aug 1804, Hull, Yorkshire. This could be my Robert Brough and would explain why there were no more children. James the youngest child would have been born after his father's death.

If Mary remarried she didn't do it in Kingston Upon Hull. At least no in records I have access to.

There is a burial 3 May 1829, Hull, Yorkshire record for a Mary Brough.

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What does the marriage record say? Any clues as to age. I think Robert may be a widower because there is a child baptized in Hessle (Ann) the year before he married Mary Wilkinson that the tree owner has included. It is possible Mary was a widow in which case you are not looking for a Mary Wilkinson at all. Who were the marriage witnesses? Any clue there?

No clue on the marriage record that I have. No ages or parent names, but it seems to me the original record had both of "this parish".

Ann Brough baptized in Hessle belonged to Robert Brough b. 1760 son of Anthony Brough and his wife Mary Watson.

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I would look for Mary's death and hope that her age at death is given as that will narrow down the field.
And Robert's death too as I am not sure how the identity of Robert has been arrived at.

Since there are multiple Robert Brough's fathers were listed as senior or junior and that's how Robert's father was identified.

If Mary's death is early enough there won't be an age listed on the death/burial record.

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I was going to suggest that you contact the tree owner, but following the only child that lived to any great age (James), there is a marriage but no descendants so it appears the tree owner is not closely related. The source is given as the Brough Global Database which may or may not to accurate.

I contacted the officer of the BGD and he basically said they have no clue.


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Regarding Aughton's distance from Hull the handy tool on GenUKI says it is 25 miles not 35. Also not too distant from the River Derwent which flows into the Humber which then goes down past Hessle to Hull. Do you know what Robert's occupation was? I am thinking maybe the Broughs or the Wilkinsons were watermen. Plenty of opportunity to meet lots of girls if you are going up and down the waterways.

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Robert Brough was a mariner iirc but can't for the life of me find the paper that says that. His son John was a mariner along with John's son Robert being a ship's captain. So while Robert could have met Mary Wilkinson in Aughton Near Selby I think it's more likely he married someone closer.

Well we have Mary Wilkinson from Cottingham where Robert's mother Theadocia Jackson was from and only a year younger than Robert and we have Mary Wilkinson "of this parish" (Hull) born 1761. I'm liking Mary Wilkinson from Cottingham the more I think on it. Age and place just seem to fit.

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Re: Mary Wilkinson 1700's Yorkshire
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 21:21 BST (UK) »
That should be Robert Brough d. 1 Aug 1804.