Emmigration to Scotland 1800s

[AncesStory]

Does anyone have recommendations on researching Irish ancestors noted in the 1851 Scotland Census and 1871 Scotland Census as being from Ireland  without knowing which Irish county they came from? I have Irish family in  two family trees and don't know where to begin researching.

[Ruskie]

Frustrating isn't it? I have a number of Irish living in Scotland who simply give their place of birth as "Ireland". Firstly I would ensure that I have each family member on each available Scottish census as sometimes you may find a little more information.

Also some Scottish birth certificates give date and place of parent's marriage, so if any children were born in Scotland I would check their b/cs.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&628

The surnames may give a vague clue as some may be more prevalent in some areas than others ....

[scotmum]

To have Irish ancestors spending time in Scotland is a bonus, as often their Scottish records will give lots of clues. Scottish death certificates, unlike Irish ones of timescale, should name parents.

Also, if any of them married in Ireland and then had any children born in Scotland in 1855 or from 1861 onwards,  the marriage location and date should be noted on the birth certificate. An 1855 birth would be especially helpful as it would also include name of informant and relationship to child, as well as information on siblings, the ages and birthplaces of both parents.

[GR2]

Parochial board records, where they survive, can also be very useful for identifying origins.

[Winterbloom21]

If they emigrated to Glasgow, it's always worth checking the Poor Law records at the Mitchell Library there.    If they received any kind of relief payments, the record will be there    I found out vast amounts of information about my own family there.  An ill wind!

[AncesStory]

I found that the Waughs in my family living in Edinburgh c. 1840's came from Co Leitrim -  from a Patrick Waugh and Honor McHugh, born about 1765/1770 ( 3 x great grandparents). Ther son James Waugh was a flesher who died in 1858. The Hoeys, also in Edinburgh were Costermongers living at Blackfriars Wynd, Edinburgh according to the 1851 census - but have had no luck tracing them back to their Irish county of birth. Some became shoe and bootmakers.
On the Glasgow side, we have the Fallen family - first noted as parents Dennis and Bridget Fallen, parents of John Owen Fallen who married a Sarah Gallacher, daughter of James Gallacher and Hellen Hoy at Alexandria, Bonhill, Dumbartonshire. Not had any luck finding where the Gallacher or Fallen  family came from in Ireland.

[hms racker]

Hi

Denis Fallen died in Glasgow in 1904 age given 66. Bridget died in Glasgow in 1891. They married in Sligo in Jan 1842.

They also had a son Patrick born 13 March 1852 in Sligo.

[hms racker]

There are entries for them and other family members in the Poor Law records in Glasgow City archives

[AncesStory]

Hi

Denis Fallen died in Glasgow in 1904 age given 66. Bridget died in Glasgow in 1891. They married in Sligo in Jan 1842.

They also had a son Patrick born 13 March 1852 in Sligo.

Thank you hms Racker for this information! Is the information about the 1842 marriage of Denis Fallen and Bridget Fallen in Co Sligo in the Glasgow poor records?

The Denis Fallen I am researching would have been born about 1810-1820 (1819 in Ireland  according to 1871, 1881, 1891 censes) I have information about death certificate of his son  and grandsons named Denis Fallen, but not the Denis fallen who travelled to Scotland from Ireland sometime in the late 1850s or in the 1860s. Perhaps I can write to the Mitchell Library for some information as I live in US? Appreciate this information very much.