Phillip Sykes - Nether Dean early 1700s?

[KEOS]

Hello,

I'm looking for information on a Phillip Sykes, born in Nether Dean. I believe he married a woman called Mary Bayes in Rushden, Northamptonshire in 1723, but I know very little else about him. Any information on his family in Nether Dean would he hugely appreciated.

[bedfordshire boy]

The excellent site http://www.rushdenheritage.co.uk/ shows no such marriage in Rushden. Are you sure you're not confusing it with a 1723 marriage in Rushden between Philip Bayley and Martha Freeman?

If the marriage place and date are wrong it would tend to affect the baptisms in Dean of a Philip Sykes, which you'll find on the IGI at www.familysearch.org, ie if he married in 1723 he wouldn't be the Philip Sykes baptised in 1712 unless it was a very late baptism.

[KEOS]

It was actually on the Rushden Heritage site that I found the marriage. At the bottom of this page here: http://www.rushdenheritage.co.uk/Villages/registers/hf-M1715-1723.html
(Though technically it took place in Higham Ferrers not Rushden)

[bedfordshire boy]

No technically about it! It did take place in Higham Ferrers.

Because you said it took place in Rushden I took you at your word. But you can still check Dean baptisms and marriages at www.familysearch.org, and for burials the index on www.findmypast.co.uk   Perhaps he was a widower, and is one of the older baptisms in Dean. There were two Philip Sykes burials in Dean post 1723, in 1727 and 1731. Either, or neither, could be your Philip. Perhaps he's the Philip half of Philip and Dorothy who baptised children in Dean. Dorothy was buried in Dean in 1714. I can't see that Philip and Mary baptised any children in Dean, so perhaps it was a later in life marriage.

[KEOS]

Sorry about the confusion. During my research Higham Ferrers and Rushden often seem interchangeable in the records. I should have been more specific. But thanks for all your help bedfordshire boy, I really appreciate it.

[johnP-bedford]

From Dean PRs....
Philip (1) & Jane Sykes baptised 9 children between 1673 & 1688 including son Philip in 1677. Wife Jane was buried 1695 & Philip in 1704. Beds Archives have the will of Philip Sykes, miller of Nether Dean ref ABP/W 1704-5/34.

Philip (2) & Dorothy baptised 3 children 1708 to 1712 including Philip 1708 buried 1708 & 2nd Philip in 1711/12. Wife Dorothy was buried in 1714. He most likely married an Anne as there are 2 children of Philip & Anne baptised 1716 to 1719. Philip was buried 1727. Again Beds Archives have the will of Philip Sykes, miller of Nether Dean ref ABP/W 1728/4.

There's an Admon ref ABP/A 1732/4 for Philip Sykes (3), senior miller of Dean at Beds Archives and this is for the Philip Sykes buried 3 Apr 1731, son of Philip & Dorothy Sykes. If this is the one baptised 1712 he'd be 21. And if he's senior where's Philip junior?

There are no children baptised to Philip & Mary at Dean post 1723. The Rushden site has burial of Mary Sykes, widow at Higham Ferrers on 25 Oct 1740. So where/when did her Philip die.     

It'd be good to see the wills & admon at Beds Archives to see if they give more details

Cheers
John

[bedfordshire boy]

John, There's a marriage of Philip Sykes and Ann Smith at Thurleigh on 20 Feb 1714, which on the face of it pre-dates the burial of Dorothy on 13 Jul 1714. But if the marriage date is the old calendar on the IGI then it becomes 20 Feb 1715 in the modern calendar, so the chronology works.

I'll be in Bedford on the 11th and 12th. Another funeral pm 11th. Booked the flight 20 mins ago. Fancy a beer or curry?

[johnP-bedford]

John, There's a marriage of Philip Sykes and Ann Smith at Thurleigh on 20 Feb 1714, which on the face of it pre-dates the burial of Dorothy on 13 Jul 1714. But if the marriage date is the old calendar on the IGI then it becomes 20 Feb 1715 in the modern calendar, so the chronology works.

The Thurleigh marriage on 20 Feb 1714/15 is Philip Sykes of Dean to Ann Smith - it don't say he's a widower, but it is after burial of Dorothy on 13 July 1714

[johnP-bedford]

From will of Philip Sykes, miller of Nether Dean 1704/5 dated 8 Aug 1704
.... to my daughter Sarah Glover, to son John Sykes, to daughter Hannah, to son James, to daughter Mary... sums of money to have when they reach age 21.
.... to my eldest son Philip Sykes my mill house, lands & closes....

From will of Philip Sikes, the elder, miller of Nether Dean 1728 dated 21 Nov 1727
.... to my son Philip Sikes the house & tenement in which I now dwell, my mill & close adjoining, paying out of the estate the sum of £3 a year to my now wife Mary for rest of her natural life...
.... to my daughter Dorothy Sikes £40 to be paid when age 21 plus gold ring which was her own mothers
.... to my son Thomas Sikes £40 when 21
.... to daughter Jane Sikes £40 when 21 plus a gold ring which was her mothers
Appoint Philip Sikes, sole executor & nominate brother John Sikes & Thomas Fox, both of Nether Dean, trustees & guardians for son Philip until age 21
Proved 31 Aug 1728 by brother John Sikes

From Admon for Philip Sykes, senior, miller of Dean 1732
... bondsman John Sykes guardian & curator assigned to Thomas Sykes & Jane Sykes natural children of Philip Sykes, late of Nether Dean, miller; lawful brother & sister of Philip Sykes, junior


So this Mary must be 3rd wife of Philip Sykes - be good have death/burial of 2nd wife Ann