Parlour family from Merthyr T. Aberdare, Pontypridd, Cardiff

[Cate]

Greetings from Australia!
I am trying to find my Welsh Parlour ancestors who came from Herefordshire to Glamorganshire in the mid 1850's. In particular, I am trying to find information about my great aunt, Mary Jane Parlour who was born in Merthyr T. in 1870. Her parents were John George Parlour (b. Merthyr T. 1850. d. Aberdare 1872) and Pamela (nee Davies) - not sure what happened to Pamela after her husband died.
John and Pamela were married in Merthyr T. on 15.2.1869 (I have the certificate).
There is a Mary Jane Parlour married a John Rees in Cardiff in the June quarter of 1889 (free bmd) but I cannot find any information about her after this. Rees is such a popular name, it is like looking for a needle in a haystack! Any suggerstions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Cate

[Arranroots]

Hi Cate!

welcome to Rootschat - I hope you will find us friendly and helpful here. 

freebmd has a death for a Pamela PARLOUR, March 1873 Cardiff - ref: Vol 11a Page 179

If you send for the cert you may find that her daughter is the informant, since she married in Cardiff??? worth a try!

I hope this helps

kind regards, Arranroots 

[rhys]

Hi Cate
This may be her in 1891

CARDIFF ST JOHN
RG12 4391 52 25

 5 HILLS TERRACE
Rees     John               H    M  26           Glam Pontypridd
 do         Mary Jane      W    M  21             do    Dowlais
 do         Rees               S     U    1             do   Cardiff
  do        Pamela          D     U    4 M         do   Cardiff
 
John was a Blacksmith`s  striker.

Rhys

[Cate]

Hi Arranroots
Many thanks for your reply. If this is my Pamela Parlour - and I'm inclined to think it is because it is not a common name - her daughter, Mary Jane, and her son, John Henry, would have been just 3 and 2 years old when Pamela died. (Her husband John George had died in 1872 of "confluent smallpox".)  Can you tell me what other info is given on a death cert for that period?
I appreciate your help
Cate

[Cate]

Hi Rhys
Many thanks for the info. Following this info through to 1901 census, the only member of that family I can see is Pamela Rees, aged 11 which is the correct age. Did John Rees die and did Mary Jane remarry? As seems to be the case with genealogy, one answer gives rise to a lot of new questions!
I'll try to get the full data from the 1901 census and see who Pamela aged 11 is living with.
Your help is much appreciated
Cate

[Arranroots]

Hi Cate

A death cert for England or Wales would give the address at which the person died, the date of death, their age, sex, name, occupation, cause of death (including how long they had been afflicted before death), signature, residence and description of informant (usually their relationship to the deceased), when the death was registered and the signature of the registrar.  There may be a note suggesting that an inquest would be held, depending on the circumstances of the death.

There is a very good site describing certificates and what to expect of them - cannot for the life of me remember the URL.  Hope fully another Rootschatter will oblige?

Arranroots 

[boycefamilytree]

looked at 1861 census . parlour family members in glamorgan

 1861 CENSUS,
REF.R.G.9/4049, E.D.22. PONTYPRIDD.                                                                               

Piece: 4049      Folio: 033     Schedule: 182

Address: BRIDGE STREET         

PARLOUR EDWARD             HD M  41   SAWYER                   
                                      HEF WINFORTON                    (c1820)
PARLOUR RUTH               WI M  41   -                         
                                      RAD GLASBURY                     (c1820)
PARLOUR JOHN GEORGE        SO -  10   -                         
                                      GLA NEWBRIDGE [PONTYPRIDD]       (c1851)
PARLOUR WILLIAM ALLWOOD    SO -   9   -                         
                                      GLA NEWBRIDGE [PONTYPRIDD]       (c1852)
PARLOUR THOMAS EDWARD      SO -   7   -                         
                                      GLA NEWBRIDGE [PONTYPRIDD]       (c1854)
PARLOUR MARY JANE          DA -   4   -                         
                                      GLA NEWBRIDGE [PONTYPRIDD]       (c1857)


~~~~~~~~------
 1861 CENSUS OF CARDIFF ST.MARY.
REF.R.G.9/4036, E.D.16.                                                                         

Piece: 4036      Folio: 065     Schedule: 058

Address: LOUDOUN SQUARE 4       


PARLOUR WILLIAM            LG U  24   RAILWAY TIMEKEEPER       
                                      SOM -                            (c1837)



hope this helps you
David Boyce

[rhys]

Hi Cate

Looks like the family changed their surname in 1871.
Can find no trace of John  pamela and Sarah Jane Parlour
in 1871

RHYS

1871 GLAMORGAN
RG10 5374  54 16
EGLWSILAN
GLYNTAFF
MERTHYR ROAD
BLACKSMITHS ROW
 
 PARDO EDWARD  H     M   51   HER  WINFORTON
              RUTH      W     M   50     do   BREDWARDINE
              THOMAS   S    U    17    GLAM  EGLWSILAN
                 MARY     D     U   14               do
                 GEORGE  S     U  10               do
                 JAMES     S     U    6                do
MILWARD PHEOBE    V    M   42                do
 
 Edward and thomas were Sawyers
 

 
1901 GLAMORGAN
CARDIFF ST JOHN
RG13 4979 51 32
 
35 HILLS TERR
REES JOHN     H   M  36
            MARY J  W   M  32
            REES     S    U  11
           PAMELA  D   U   10
            ANN         D   U    8
           WATKIN    S   U    6
John was a Blacksmiths Striker
All born Glam Cardiff
 
 
 
 

[Cate]

Many thanks Arranroots, David and Rhys

I really appreciate your assistance. Lots of ancestors to investigate!! 

Cate