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Re: Marriage George Hudson and Mary Ann Smart Oct - Dec 1854 West Bromwich
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 02 July 15 09:17 BST (UK) »
Just to say a big thank you to all, I am waiting for the marriage certificate at the moment.

I will look at all the suggestions made when I get a minute, just so busy at work currently.  All been well I may be off to Dudley record office in mid to late July ....come on certificate  :)
West Cornforth War Memorial
Denholm/ Denham - East Lothian
Denholm - Fife
McKenzie - East Lothian
McKenzie Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Hudson - County Durham
Hudson - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Smart - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Sidaway - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Parry - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Billingham - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Dowler - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Hall  - County Durham and North Yorkshire
Gorst - Liverpool
Gorst - Cheshire Wales

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Re: Marriage George Hudson and Mary Ann Smart Oct - Dec 1854 West Bromwich
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 July 15 07:32 BST (UK) »
Hello

Apologies for not replying earlier. I have pasted this on another osting.

Its intense at work currently  :( .. as I have 3 weeks off after this week  :) so hope to get time to review all the fantastic replies.  I have booked in for Dudley archives next week so hope to catch up on local research possibly for Hudson and Smart.

Once I have looked I will get back to you all.

Thanks again

Andy
West Cornforth War Memorial
Denholm/ Denham - East Lothian
Denholm - Fife
McKenzie - East Lothian
McKenzie Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Hudson - County Durham
Hudson - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Smart - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Sidaway - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Parry - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Billingham - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Dowler - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Hall  - County Durham and North Yorkshire
Gorst - Liverpool
Gorst - Cheshire Wales

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Re: Marriage George Hudson and Mary Ann Smart Oct - Dec 1854 West Bromwich
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 16 July 15 09:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you again....concerned  I am due to leave in the morning but GRO stated marriage certificate for Hudson and Smart not due till the 20th July here's fingers crossed its early....or I will be getting post checked ha ha
West Cornforth War Memorial
Denholm/ Denham - East Lothian
Denholm - Fife
McKenzie - East Lothian
McKenzie Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Hudson - County Durham
Hudson - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Smart - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Sidaway - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Parry - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Billingham - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Dowler - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Hall  - County Durham and North Yorkshire
Gorst - Liverpool
Gorst - Cheshire Wales

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Re: Marriage George Hudson and Mary Ann Smart Oct - Dec 1854 West Bromwich
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 16 July 15 09:41 BST (UK) »
Theres nothing worse than waiting for certificates to arrive but I refuse to pay £23.50 for next day delivery fingers crossed its early

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Re: Marriage George Hudson and Mary Ann Smart Oct - Dec 1854 West Bromwich
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 16 July 15 09:45 BST (UK) »
Exactly !! But I have had fantastic help on Roots Chat  ;) :) :D and next week visiting Dudley, Netherton and Kingswinford...lets hope maybe its good news on certificate and maybe off to a church they were married at or family connection at a church...sure you know what I mean ha ha
West Cornforth War Memorial
Denholm/ Denham - East Lothian
Denholm - Fife
McKenzie - East Lothian
McKenzie Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Hudson - County Durham
Hudson - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Smart - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Sidaway - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Parry - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Billingham - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Dowler - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Hall  - County Durham and North Yorkshire
Gorst - Liverpool
Gorst - Cheshire Wales

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Re: Marriage George Hudson and Mary Ann Smart Oct - Dec 1854 West Bromwich
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 July 15 18:36 BST (UK) »
Quote
early ones didn't include fathers and just gave the age as 'Full'

Marriage was 1854.  Whilst age may be shown as "full" fathers names were included on marriage certs from 1.7.1837

I have the marriage certificate and John is listed as 21 and Mary Ann 20 on what looks like 27th November 1854 which was a Monday
West Cornforth War Memorial
Denholm/ Denham - East Lothian
Denholm - Fife
McKenzie - East Lothian
McKenzie Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Hudson - County Durham
Hudson - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Smart - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Sidaway - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Parry - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Billingham - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Dowler - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Hall  - County Durham and North Yorkshire
Gorst - Liverpool
Gorst - Cheshire Wales

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Re: Marriage George Hudson and Mary Ann Smart Oct - Dec 1854 West Bromwich
« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 July 15 18:40 BST (UK) »
You didnt mention 1861 Census

This could be them;

1861 Census
Kingswinford, Staffordshire
George Hudson,   30, Head, Mar, Stone Miner, born Dudley, Worcestershire
Maryan Hudson, 24, Wife, Mar, born Dudley
Joseph Hudson, 4, Son, born Dudley


1861 Census Dudley;
Mary Hudson, 41, Head, Widow, Nailoress
Rosanna Hudson, 16
John Hudson, 14
Alfred Hudson, 10
Mary A Hudson, 5
Thomas Hudson, 3
Emma Hudson, 31, Daug in Law, Widow, Laundress
All born Netherton

The marriage certificate from 1854 it looks like  both living at Birchy Field Lane? I have had a photograph of it emailed to me.
West Cornforth War Memorial
Denholm/ Denham - East Lothian
Denholm - Fife
McKenzie - East Lothian
McKenzie Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Hudson - County Durham
Hudson - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Smart - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Sidaway - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Parry - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Billingham - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Dowler - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Hall  - County Durham and North Yorkshire
Gorst - Liverpool
Gorst - Cheshire Wales

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Re: Marriage George Hudson and Mary Ann Smart Oct - Dec 1854 West Bromwich
« Reply #16 on: Monday 20 July 15 18:48 BST (UK) »
Keep this in mind as a possible until after you get the Marriage Cert.

GEORGE Hudson Baptised 7 Aug 1836, St Thomas, Dudley, Staffordshire
Birth 17 October 1834
Parents JOHN/ROSANNAH
Abode Netherton
Fathers Occp Miner
Siblings Baptised same day;
LEVINIA, birth 4 Jan 1833
JOSEPH, birth 25 April 1836
(FreeREG)

Possible Marriage;
23 October 1831, St Leonards, Clent
John HUDSON/Rosannah SIDAWAY
(FreeREG)

There is also a Burial;
ROSANNAH Hudson, 27 April 1842 St Thomas, age 31, abode Netherton
Died 23 April
(FreeREG)

1841 Census
Old Swinford, Worcestershire
HO107/1198/8/Old Swinford
John HUTSON, 30, Miner
Hannah Hutson, 25
Levina Hutson, 8
GEORGE Hutson, 7***
Joseph Hutson, 5
Edward Hutson, 3
Nehemiah Hutson, 1
All down as born in County

NEHEMIAH Hudson Baptised 2 Jan 1842 St Thomas, Parents JOHN/ANN, abode Netherton, Father a Miner
Birth 1 Jan 1840
(FreeREG)
Cant find Edwards Baptism.

1851 in Oldbury, Worcs we have;
John HUTSON, 42
Mary Hutson, 35
GEORGE Hutson, 16, Son, Coal Miner, born Dudley, Worcestershire
Joseph Hutson, 14
Edward Hutson, 12
Rosannah Hutson, 7
John Hutson, 5
Alfred Hutson, 10 Mo
Esther Pearsall, 20, Visitor
Ann Maria Roberts,19, Visitor
Sarah Gill, 28, Visitor

So Rosannah/John/Alfred mus be born to new Wife.

Here goes folks and I need a wee bit of help please, George Hudson/Hutson was John Hutson a Collier and Mary Ann Smart father was Samuel Smart.

As I said both residing at Birchy Field Lane, parents John Hutson and Samuel Smart both Colliers..unsure how I can attach certificate???
West Cornforth War Memorial
Denholm/ Denham - East Lothian
Denholm - Fife
McKenzie - East Lothian
McKenzie Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Hudson - County Durham
Hudson - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Smart - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Sidaway - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Parry - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Billingham - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Dowler - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Hall  - County Durham and North Yorkshire
Gorst - Liverpool
Gorst - Cheshire Wales

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Re: Marriage George Hudson and Mary Ann Smart Oct - Dec 1854 West Bromwich
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 July 15 19:41 BST (UK) »
Hello

After a few frantic replies to all...I am taking stock now.

I am leaving Leighton Buzzard and travelling to Brierley Hill in the morning.

Would all my educated friends who have assisted me suggest a visit to Dudley Record Office? I have a week to get some research done in the area, with a few non history trips planned though you have a fantastic area.

Or to St Thomas Church?  I am frantically looking at all that has been suggested and trying to work out an action plan....don't multi task I am sure my female friends who have assisted me regarding this to date are far much better ha ha.

Listen to any advice please.

Thanks again for all your help.

Regards

Andy
West Cornforth War Memorial
Denholm/ Denham - East Lothian
Denholm - Fife
McKenzie - East Lothian
McKenzie Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Hudson - County Durham
Hudson - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Smart - Worcestershire & Staffordshire.
Sidaway - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Parry - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Billingham - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Dowler - Worcestershire & Staffordshire
Hall  - County Durham and North Yorkshire
Gorst - Liverpool
Gorst - Cheshire Wales