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Help finding John Donald Robertson in Quebec
« on: Thursday 02 July 15 10:25 BST (UK) »
Please can someone help trace John Donald Robertson in (probably) Quebec, Canada?  Apart from the Ocean Arrivals form (attached), WW1 record and a family bible giving death date, I have no information. 

b. 1896 Jarrow, Durham, England.
d. 13/01/1955 Canada.

Thank you for looking,

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Caithness & New World: Robertson, McDonald
Durham: Robertson, Carroll
Ireland:  Carroll, Fanning
Yorkshire: Hall, West
Devon: Robertson

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Re: Help finding John Donald Robertson in Quebec
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 July 15 11:28 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There is a Canada Form 30A  - 1924 -- John Donald Robertson - born 1897 and aged 27 years - Jarrow Durham - on the Cameronia (was transcribed as born Toronto Scotland !!)  Married. Present Occupation Theatrical Manager - Intended Occupation Farming. Destined to a Mr Robb, Canadian National ???? (railway ??) Nearest relative from whence came Miss E A Robertson., Westfield House, Jarrow On Tyne.
 
Unfortunately there are no Central registries/indexes in Canada for BMDs.  Canada has very strict privacy laws and each province imposes its own even further.  Additionally, some provinces are more research friendly than others so researching in Canada can be challenging.  The latest available Canadian Census is 1921   As a guide BMD Records are only available for births more than a 100 years ago, marriages 85 years ago (up to about 1929/30 at present) and deaths 70 years ago. Sometimes by using newspaper announcements, cemetery records, obituaries, telephone directories, http://www.canada411.ca/ etc it is possible to trace the families forward.

Have you got the name of John's wife or any children they may have had in 1924 ?


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Re: Help finding John Donald Robertson in Quebec
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 July 15 12:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your reply, Sandra. 
I'd found the Ocean Arrivals Form 30A and tried to attach it, but it was removed from my post.  It's definitely him as all the info fits.  Unfortunately, even though he stated he was married on the form there is no record in the family bible about a wife and I haven't found a convincing marriage registration for him in the UK.

Thanks very much for the information on BMDs etc. I will have a look at the site you suggested! There are a few possibilities on Canadian Electoral rolls, so who knows?

Thanks again,

finta


 
Caithness & New World: Robertson, McDonald
Durham: Robertson, Carroll
Ireland:  Carroll, Fanning
Yorkshire: Hall, West
Devon: Robertson

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Re: Help finding John Donald Robertson in Quebec
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 May 24 17:42 BST (UK) »

Quite a few years ago when you posted your request but could this be a possibility for the man you were looking for ?  The date you gave would be correct.

The Montreal Star
Montreal, Quebec, Canada 
Sat, 15 Jan 1955
Page 25

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-montreal-star/147866197/

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Re: Help finding John Donald Robertson in Quebec
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 May 24 19:49 BST (UK) »
There is a John Robertson, aged 35, in the 1931 Canadian Census in Verdun, Quebec, a storekeeper (hospital) born England, immigrated 1923.  Noted as a widower.  Two lodgers in the household: Mary McKenna, aged 40, widow, and her daughter, also named Mary, aged 18, both born in the US.

Also, in the 1953 Voters' List, a John Donald Robertson, working for HB Co. (Hudson's Bay Company), living on his own in an apartment on Lincoln Avenue in Westmount (part of Montreal).

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Re: Help finding John Donald Robertson in Quebec
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 May 24 20:19 BST (UK) »
From the obit. it says interred in the Field of Honour,

An entry from the Field of Honour of John Donald Robertson, b. 19 Jan. 1894, d. 13 Jan. 1955,
and notation "90th Infantry Brigade BEF".

https://champdhonneurnational.ca/locator/person?id=30339

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Re: Help finding John Donald Robertson in Quebec
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 May 24 20:46 BST (UK) »
Birth year wouldn't tie in if this is the family.  But then what's a few years out  :) He was a first quarter 1896 birth, so January could well be correct.
90 Infantry Brigade BEF -  ?

Formed from Army Troops of the BEF. GHQ Troops ... 90th Brigade · 30th Division, November 1915, Western ... Formed by renumbering 190th (2nd Durham Light Infantry)  ??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_infantry_brigades_of_the_First_World_War

1901 census Jarrow Durham

Hugh Robertson 46 Head
Sarah A Robertson 45 Wife
Eliza A Robertson   25   Daughter
Catherine Robertson 19 Daughter
Rachel H Robertson 17 Daughter
Ethel Robertson 13 Daughter
Douglas F Robertson 10 Son
Wilfred Robertson 7 Son
Harold Robertson 6 Son
John Robertson 5 Son
Janet Douglas 25 Servant
Emme Best 17 Servant


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSHN-QJF

Birth Registration

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FQG-CFK

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Re: Help finding John Donald Robertson in Quebec
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 May 24 20:50 BST (UK) »
The address on the 1911 census agrees with the immigration info of a sister.

1911 census Westfield House Jarrow On Tyne.

Hugh Robertson 56 Head. Theatre Proprietor.
Sarah Ann Robertson 55 Wife
Eliza Ann Robertson   35   Daughter
Rachel Hannah Robertson 27 Daughter
Douglas Forbes Robertson 20 Son
Ceilia McMullan 21 Servant
Lizzie Jane Jones 20 Servant

probate for a single Eliza A Robertson in 1951 makes no mention of brother John but mentions Wilfred. (Thomas)

Probate for Thomas Wilfred - 1 September 1969  (same family address)

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Re: Help finding John Donald Robertson in Quebec
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 May 24 20:54 BST (UK) »
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