Thomas Phillips/Ellen Bourke

[aniph]

Hi all

I have just discovered all the RC records at the National Library-what a great resource.

Carrying on from this post re their son Michael Phillips - link below.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=412816.0

I have found a marriage at Castlegar 3 May 1830

Thos Phillips to Ellen Bourke
Witnesses: John Laffy & Marg Geraghty       Mendo-house (should this be Menlo-house?)

To repeat: Michael was baptised Annaghdown 2 April 1837
 Thomas & Eleanor Bourke
Spns: Mich Phillips @ Mary King

I have scrolled through all Annaghdown and Castlegar records and cannot find baptism records for any siblings of Michael.

Any suggestions on what to try now?

Many thanks
Annie

[greeneyedgirl]

 Hi Annie, found these baptisms of siblings for Michael.

Walter Phillips
bap:20 January 1845
place:Annaghdown
father:Thomas Phillips
mother:Ellen Burke
sponsors:Bernard Phillips & Ellen Crowe

Thomas Phillips
bap:29 December 1848
place: St Nicholas Combined N & E
parents:same
sponsors:Walter Burke & Eliza Phillips

Francis Phillips
bap:14 July 1850
place: St Nicholas Combined N & E
parents:same
sponsors:Bernard Phillips & Celia Clarke

I found these on rootsireland.ie. They were the only ones I found. Taking into account the famine happened between Michael's birth and Walter's maybe they lost a few children either before or during the famine. Hope this helps, Kim

[greeneyedgirl]

Hi, just let me correct what I said. The Irish famine by most accounts would be from 1845/1846 to 1850. Prior to this people were having a difficult time and there were instances of problems with crops arising. I didn't mean it to sound like the famine was between 1837-1845, just that problems were already starting. Kim

[aniph]

Wow thanks so much Kim, what a break through.

I have found a niece of Michael's today also living in Greymouth, New Zealand- Mary Jane PHILLPS bc 1866 ( not sure where she was born). I can now look to see if any of the brothers maybe also came to NZ.

Many thanks
Annie

[taramcdsmall]

Annie

I've posted on your other thread too ~

I'm just concerned that you are making a presumption that the Annagdown family are yours without any proof.

Have you any NZ paperwork to link to this family ?

Tara

[aniph]

Annie

I've posted on your other thread too ~

I'm just concerned that you are making a presumption that the Annagdown family are yours without any proof.

Have you any NZ paperwork to link to this family ?

Tara

See my reply in the other thread Tara. Thanks

[taramcdsmall]

Hi Annie

OK Working for a mo on a presumption that Thomas & Ellen are the correct couple ~

Have you noted that this family moved ~

The first two children that were found for you were baptised in Annaghdown.

The later children were baptised in St. Nicholas.N & E which is Galway  City.

If you look at GV you will see that there are no Phillips in Annaghdown.

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/galway/annaghdown.htm

There are a lot of Burkes but that gives you no clue as there are a LOT of Burkes in Galway .

So, also to note that Thomas and Ellen married in Castlegar.

This church is about halfway between Annaghdown and Galway  City and covers the townland of Menlo which we have mentioned.

So, it would seem the family were transient.

So no Phillips on Rahoon GV

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/galway/rahoon.htm

SOOOO I eventually found a Thomas Phillips living in Wood Quay in Galway City GV.

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/galway/stnicholas.htm

I'd be pretty sure given your timeline and records found that this is the Thomas that you are hoping is your ancestor.

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Galway_South_Urban/Kilcorrey/1374902/

So, the name Bernard Phillips shows on one of the records found.

This is a rare combination of Christian and Surname in Galway  so I think this chap should be followed up to sure to see if there is a connection.

Tara

[aniph]

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Galway_South_Urban/Kilcorrey/1374902/

So, the name Bernard Phillips shows on one of the records found.

This is a rare combination of Christian and Surname in Galway  so I think this chap should be followed up to sure to see if there is a connection.

Tara

Thanks for both those posts, I will investigate further. Phillips certainly doesn't appear to be a very common name in Galway. Unfortunately in New Zealand it is much more common ie: like 8 possible deaths for Mary Jane IF she died in NZ.

Thanks
Annie