Wymer

[maltingo]

Once again I ask for help from RootsChat.
I have an ancestor, Jacob Wymer, b.circa 1756.
He was married twice, once  to a Susannah Gilbert and then a Elizabeth Moll.
It is about Jacob that I pose a question.
Many family trees have him born in South Walsham to parents John Wymer and Elizabeth, but I cannot find any evidence to verify this, and cannot include this in my tree.
On page 7/29 in 1759  in the South Walsham St Mary Parish Records there is an entry Sarah & Jacob, children of John and Elizabeth Wymer, baptised December 23rd.
I cannot find his birth record.
On page 26/29 in 1809 August 31st there is a record that Elizabeth wife of John Wymer, died aged 27 years ( That would make her born in 1782) much later after Jacob was born in 1750's.
This suggests that Elizabeth was a second wife of John Wymer ?
Have I missed a trick here ?, South Walsham St Mary could well be where he was born (There is also a Wymer Lane locally) but can you see a link anyone please ?
Thank you.

[The Yokel]

Hi

Not sure if these will help or not!

John Wymer married Elizabeth Ayres 19 Oct 1746 Yelverton (24/35)

Cannot find any children baptised to them in Yelverton, could they have moved to
Norwich St Martin at Oak and baptised son John on 3 June 1750 (61/77)

Then to South Walsham St Lawrence and baptised son William on 2 July 1753 (31/69), at that time they were living at Panxworth.
Then, as you have, to South Walsham St Mary for Sarah and Jacob.

On page 7/29 in 1759  in the South Walsham St Mary Parish Records there is an entry Sarah & Jacob, children of John and Elizabeth Wymer, baptised December 23rd.
I cannot find his birth record.

What record of birth do you hope to find as registration didn't start until 1837.

yokel

[maltingo]

Thanks for your reply Yokel.
I was hoping to see an entry in the parish records for Jacob under births, but to no avail, only a baptism, which does not indicate the person was born in South Walsham St Mary.
Your references for John and Elizabeth are interesting but involve them moving from place to place regularly, it may be possible ?, Jacob went on to Moulton St Mary where he married twice and brought up a large family. All the children were baptised there without fail, until Jacob died.
There was a local blacksmith name of William, who on your theory could have been a brother, who may have moved to Moulton with him,?
As I have said John Wymer's wife Elizabeth died in 1809 aged 27 so she cannot be the mother of Jacob, made me think she was possibly a second spouse ?
My search goes on ?
regards

[The Yokel]

There is a John Wymer son of John and Elizabeth baptised in Blofield (can't quite read Elizabeths maiden name) on 28 Feb 1808 (15/29)
Then on 27 Nov 1810 in Blofield, John Wymer (widower) marries Elizabeth Tungate (widow)(45/47)

Could this first Elizabeth be the one who is buried in South Walsham? Have not found a possible marriage for them.

These John wymers keep popping up every where

[maltingo]

Seems very likely that the John who married Elizabeth (who died in 1809), remarried in 1810 to the widow Elizabeth Tungate.
Other trees perception that a John Wymer was Jacobs father is my problem as Jacob was baptised in 1759, seems, along with a sister Sarah ? the age difference looking for his father would be possibly 1730's, could that be a John ?
regards

[The Yokel]

I think that
William bap 1753 Sth Walsham St Lawrence
Sarah and Jacob bap Sth Walsham St Mary are all the same family.

Just found this
Elizabeth who died age 27 in 1809 could be this one who married John Wimer in 1803
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ft1/

It looks like the ones who were in Blofield.

One of the witnesses of the marriage was Sarah Wymer could this be the sister of Jacob

[maltingo]

Thank you so much for your input Yokel, you have trained my thought on several other avenues.
The tree that claimed John as the father of Jacob, went as follows :
Jacob 1756, Sarah ? William 1753, John 1750.
John (Father) 1726.
William, Mx Elizabeth White 9/2/1725
William 16.2.1663 Mx Sarah King 14.12.1690 Yelverton
William 1625 Mx Elizabeth Woodcock( d.1702), in 1.10.1650 St Lawrence.

All seems very nice four more generations back but I cannot include without references/proof.

regards and Thanks again

[The Yokel]

You're welcome

One of the witnesses of the marriage was Sarah Wymer could this be the sister of Jacob

I don't think she was.

The Family of Wymers in Blofield are descendants of John Wimer and Lidia Kerridge  married Blofield 7 Sept 1775
They had
William bn 1775 Blofield
John bn 1780 Hemblington
Samuel bn 1784 Hemblington
Sarah bn 1788 Hemblington

yokel

[maltingo]

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