Thank you for your replies, much appreciated. Yes, I have my grandfather living with his maternal grandparents (his mother died a few days after he was born) in Nicholas St in the 1881 census. Also his paternal uncle, who married his maternal aunt (life does get complicated doesnt it!!) Just to further complicate his uncle has the same name, Henry Mitchell!! There was a rift in the family, my Dad told me little of his fathers background but have discovered that his paternal grandfather married into French Huguenots (have that history) Again my thanks, its sometimes difficult from NZ to find out these things. How I wish I had started when living in the UK