Looking for Thomas Glynn

[Luzzu]

I have the 1883 marriage certificate for William Taylor and Anne Glynn.  The marriage was in Hale, Lancashire.  Anne Glynn's father was recorded as Thomas Glynn, labourer.

Anne was aged 21 so born about 1862.  According to the 1891 census she was born in Yorkshire (location not known) - RG12/3007.  The 1891 census is the only one I have definitely found her on.  She had died by 1901.

Possibly she is on the 1881 working as a servant at 20 Great Orford Street, Liverpool in the Gelling household - RG11/3622 - born Leeds, Yorkshire.

I really need to find her with her parents in 1871 but am struggling.

I have two possible marriages for her parents:-

6th Nov 1859 Thomas Glynn & Margaret Carle St Anne's RC Church, Liverpool (Thomas was the son of Patrick Glynn and Margaret was the daughter of John Carle).  The address was Mason Street.

The other marriage is Thomas Glyn & Ellen Cosgrove 1st qtr 1854 Prescott 8b 718 - I haven't ordered the certificate as yet.

I have found an Ellen Glynn, who was a widow in 1871, with a daughter Anne Glynn, aged 10, living at Chapel Street, Great Crosby - RG10 3836.  However both were recorded as being born in Liverpool.  There is a death of a Thomas Glynn, aged 35 years, 4th qtr 1867 West Derby 8b 379.

Then in 1861 I have a Thomas and Ellen Glynn living at Sutton's Lane, Widnes - RG9 2743.  Thomas is a chemical labourer, aged 31 and Ellen is aged 30 (the Ellen who is a widow in 1871 is aged 31).  This Thomas and Ellen were born in Ireland.

I have got myself in a muddle and I hoping a fresh pair of eyes might help me sort it all out and see where to go next.

Thank you.

Luzzu 

[keyboard86]

Hi not born in Yorkshire but have you discounted the Annie Glynn aged 10 with apparent sister Margaret aged 7 in Chorlton Union Workhouse in 1871?
Census ref RG10/3974/122/6
Keyboard86

[garstonite]

Hiya Luzzu
I lived in Hale for 7 years
R****** Glynn ran the post Office - he has now retired
D***** Glynn is an Electrician in his 60's
A*** Glynn is a joiner in his 60's
J**** and J*** twins - boy and girl in their 50's
I know this family very well

anyway - back to your original question - could this be Ann(e) in 1881 - looks a good possibility
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQDD-CZJ
if so - you may find her birth on Yorkshirebmd in Leeds
ADDED Freebmd and Yorkshirebmd only have an Ann Glynn born Doncaster 1861 ??
looks like she died a year later
I see your problem now - I think the Leeds and Yorkshire births look a bit suspect ?

[garstonite]

birth of 1st child has her name as Annie
Baptism: 11 Nov 1883 St Mary, Hale, Lancashire, England
Margaret Taylor - [Child] of William Taylor & Annie
    Born: 25 Sep 1883
    Abode: Hale
    Occupation: Labourer
2nd child is named after mum

Baptism: 21 Nov 1886 St Mary, Hale, Lancashire, England
Annie Taylor - [Child] of William Taylor & Annie
    Born: 4 Oct 1886
    Abode: Hale
    Occupation: Labourer

Baptism: 12 Jun 1892 St Mary, Hale, Lancashire, England
William Taylor - [Child] of William Taylor & Annie
    Born: 26 Apr 1892
same abode / occupation - 6 years seems a long time between those last 2 baptisms
I wonder if the name Margaret is a clue ??...could that be the name of Ann / Annies mother ?
strange that their marriage isn't on Lan - Opc but the 3 baptisms are .

[Luzzu]

Thanks Keyboard.  I hadn't considered that one probably because I have been concentrating on the Liverpool area rather than the Manchester area.  I shall certainly take a look though.

[Luzzu]

Hi Garstonite,

I think that is very likely the Anne Glynn I am looking for in 1881 working as a servant at 20 Great Orford Street, born in Leeds, Yorkshire.

I saw the 1861 Doncaster birth but as you say she died in infancy.

There is a possibility of another child born to William Taylor and Anne Glynn which I haven't confirmed yet with a certificate.

Elizabeth Ann Taylor born 4th qtr 1889 Prescot 8b 870, died 2nd qtr 1890 Prescot 8b 472, buried 24th May 1890 in Hale Churchyard.  Can't find a baptism though.  It would fill the 6 year gap you mentioned.

I have a feeling that the Thomas Glynn/Margaret Carle 1859 marriage is the right one but how do I prove it?  It seems odd they are missing from the 1861 and 1871 census.

Luzzu

[keyboard86]

Hi again, living in Mason Street, Liverpool in 1861;-

Thos B? Glyn 30 b Ireland
Margaret 23 b Ireland
Census ref RG09/2733/41/24
Keyboard86

[Luzzu]

Thanks Keyboard  .  That's definitely the couple who married in 1859.  Just been looking at the image and I think his name is just Thomas not Thomas B.  It looks like its written as Thos but the "s" has been transcribed as a middle initial B.  He's a labourer as well  .

Luzzu

[rolnora]

There is a burial record in Liverpool Catholic Burials for a .....
Margaret Glynn aged 28 buried at Ford Cemetery 24 Nov 1865
Can't make out the address looks like 13ct Kew ?