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Leslie Arthur Ormrod/Osmond, b1909, son of Henry Lewis Osmond/Ormrod
« on: Friday 18 September 15 08:08 BST (UK) »
Henry Lewis Osmond 1872 - 1936 - Character or Cad ?

I am researching the tumultuous  life of this man, born Henry Lewis ORMROD and lived the life of a theatre producer in England using the name Henry Lewis OSMOND. He lived 1872 to 1936 and did most of his theatrical work after 1890 across England and Ireland.  His children switch between Ormrod and Osmond, but seemed as a whole to have settled on Osmond

He lived with, I believe 5 different women, consecutively, not concurrently, and produced in consequence a number of children, mainly daughters, who in turn have interesting histories. I have tracked most of them down, but my lack of skills in Canadian research has made it difficult to track down what appears to be his only son LESLIE ARTHUR ORMROD/OSMOND born London,  England 1909

I have more on him and his mother  here http://www.chrisgrant.eu/genealogy/owen-osmond/partridge/alys-win-may.html

He left for Canada in 1929 working as a waiter on a ship
http://www.chrisgrant.eu/genealogy/owen-osmond/ormrod-osmond/leslie.html

1929. Leslie Osmond arrives Montreal as a Steward on the Ascania in June
1929. Leslie Arthur Osmond, full age, waiter, marries Ann MORRISON on 4/12/1929 Montreal . Her father is T Morrison , Benmore, Portree, Isle of Skye
1936. Annie Osmond, 34, his wife, and baby LESLIE (9 months), travel on 9/11/1936 from Greenock to Montreal . They have been to see her parents in Scotland

That is where I loose the family.
I got the church marriage record in 1929, off Ancestry, but it is very basic and just says A married B but gives no other details
I have no idea how to track down LESLIE's birth in 1936 in Canada (It is not in UK, so I assume it is Canada as they were living there)
I would assume the OSMOND/ORMROD parents produced other children in Canada, but I have no idea how to find their birth records
Apart from the marriage in Montreal, I have no idea where they lived or died in Canada

At least the surname OSMOND is easy to research, if you know where to start!
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Re: Leslie Arthur Ormrod/Osmond, b1909, son of Henry Lewis Osmond/Ormrod
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 September 15 09:22 BST (UK) »
The strict privacy laws in Canada would prevent access to birth records at that time period, in whatever Province they may have occurred. You would need to look for birth announcements in the newspapers - someone else may be able to advise on that.

There is an entry in the Voters List 1957 at Notre-Dame-de-Grace , Montreal :

Leslie A Osmond agent
Mrs Annie Osmond housewife
* Osmond secretary
* Osmond salesman

This could be the family. I am a little concerned that  the younger members of the family  could still be living and in consequence should not be mentioned on the forum at all.
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Re: Leslie Arthur Ormrod/Osmond, b1909, son of Henry Lewis Osmond/Ormrod
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 September 15 09:32 BST (UK) »
CB53. Thanks very much.

Let me say that I am not trying to find living members of the family, I am just interested in what happened to Lesie Osmond b 1909 once he got to Canada (I would be fairly sure he was dead by now!)

It looks as if the family did settle in Montreal and hence that is a great step forward for me.

Given that most of the Osmonds went on the stage, that is the sort of thing I am trying to find for Lesie
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Re: Leslie Arthur Ormrod/Osmond, b1909, son of Henry Lewis Osmond/Ormrod
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 September 15 16:07 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Looks like Leslie A and son had a wholesale plumbing supply business called Osmond Agencies.

You can find them in the Montreal Directories
http://bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/bna/lovell/?language_id=3

Here is a booklet about plumbing supplies, co-authored by Leslie A Osmond
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01g5n/

Some other people are applying for Letters Patent for this company in 1971.  Search on the page for Osmond.  Same address as when Leslie A was running it.
http://collections.banq.qc.ca:81/jrn03/goq/src/1971/09/04/116644_1971-09-04.pdf

1969-1970 directory, Leslie A is in charge of Osmond Agencies.  Looks like son may have a different business now.  See directory listing.

Don't see a Leslie in the 1971 directory. 

RK



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Re: Leslie Arthur Ormrod/Osmond, b1909, son of Henry Lewis Osmond/Ormrod
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 September 15 16:36 BST (UK) »
Could this be the son listed on the Daily Times Obit Index ?

Leslie Morrison "Les" Osmond -  70 years -  Quebec - Montreal Gazette; 2005-5-20; mlam

perhaps this entry would help our expert RK find an obituary in the Toronto Star (the age is different but obituary dates close  ???

Leslie Morrison "Les"; 69 years - Toronto Star (ON); 2005-5-19; cfoisy

http://obits.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi?Surname=leslie+%252bh+r+%2522&type=Keyword&Start=18200

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Re: Leslie Arthur Ormrod/Osmond, b1909, son of Henry Lewis Osmond/Ormrod
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 September 15 16:37 BST (UK) »
Hi RunKitty

Thank you for those references, that is certainly him, the name is no rare.

So now I know that he was a sort of "Mr Big" in puumbing in Montreal, and appears to have been investigated for fixing prices.

He must have retired/died around 1971, and none of the family carried on the plumbing business

Obviously I am lacking in the shills required in Canadian research, and I am very grateful
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Re: Leslie Arthur Ormrod/Osmond, b1909, son of Henry Lewis Osmond/Ormrod
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 September 15 16:40 BST (UK) »
Sandra

Thanks you for that on Leslie Morrison Osmond. That will be Leslie Arthur Osmond son - the Morrison was his mother's surname

I guess that is a death notice, rather than an obituary, but I am not sure
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Re: Leslie Arthur Ormrod/Osmond, b1909, son of Henry Lewis Osmond/Ormrod
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 September 15 17:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Obit in the Star is quite short.  Doesn't list wife, but mentions 4 children and 3 grandchildren by name.  He was in his 70th year. He is in Glen Oaks Cemetery, Oakville, Ontario. 

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Re: Leslie Arthur Ormrod/Osmond, b1909, son of Henry Lewis Osmond/Ormrod
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 September 15 17:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks

Looks as if Leslie M moved from Montreal to Oakville , Ontario in retirement
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