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1 York Rd, Lambeth – who owned it?
« on: Thursday 08 October 15 07:16 BST (UK) »
Please could some kind person help me find out who owned 1 York Road, Lambeth in 1881?
It is described in the census as "gardener's cottage" but I would like to know who was the gardener's employer. This end of York Road is at Westminster Bridge and it is possible the cottage belonged to Lambeth Palace, or even to Buckingham Palace (family stories say the gardener in question was working for: 1. Queen Victoria; 2. Kew; 3. someone important) – so it could be anyone!
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Re: 1 York Rd, Lambeth – who owned it?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 October 15 07:26 BST (UK) »
How does the Duke of York sound??  Important enough for you!  😄😄😄😄😄😄

Oops - Only kidding - looks like that's a pub, 1 York Terrace - didn't look properly! Didn't notice until I pasted the link?   Got excited!  Sorry!  But it does list the residents in 1881 census!

http://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Lambeth/DukeYorkCamberwell.shtml
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Re: 1 York Rd, Lambeth – who owned it?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 October 15 07:43 BST (UK) »
What census page are you looking at? 1 York Road is on piece 587, page 19 folio 12. I can't see any mention of a gardener's cottage. Numbers 1 and 3 are enumerated together with 80 and 82 Waterloo Road. According to my 1880 directory, numbers 1 and 3 were the York Hotel.
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Re: 1 York Rd, Lambeth – who owned it?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 October 15 08:26 BST (UK) »
It's census piece 626/36 page 25; Rbt Warren. The address is written in the left hand column (but also looks like it's written as 125 York Crescent?), along with "Gardeners Lodge" (not cottage – sorry my mistake).
I'm wanting to find who owned the house and was Robert Warren's employer.
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Re: 1 York Rd, Lambeth – who owned it?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 October 15 08:29 BST (UK) »
OK I see it now - piece 626, page 25. It's enumerated with York Crescent but it does clearly say " 1 York Rd" above " Gardners Lodge".

As mentioned in my earlier post, 1 York Road was part of the York Hotel.
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Re: 1 York Rd, Lambeth – who owned it?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 October 15 09:21 BST (UK) »
Odd isn't it? Was the York hotel in Lambeth as well?
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Re: 1 York Rd, Lambeth – who owned it?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 October 15 09:21 BST (UK) »
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piece 626, page 25. It's enumerated with York Crescent but it does clearly say " 1 York Rd" above " Gardners Lodge"

That piece is Norwood. I think we have been looking at the wrong York Road
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Re: 1 York Rd, Lambeth – who owned it?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 October 15 09:26 BST (UK) »
York Road in Norwood can be seen on this 1862 map, off Royal Circus.  http://www.mappalondon.com/london/south-east/norwood.jpg

Tonge House (the previous household on that 1881 census page) is just above "York"
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Re: 1 York Rd, Lambeth – who owned it?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 October 15 10:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your clever detective work!
I see Norwood on the top of the page now you point it out.
Is Lambeth a large area for the point of view of the census then? Norwood seems to be quite a long way from where we were looking originally.

Now I'm REALLY confused as to who Robert worked for!
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