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Re: Frederick Briggs
« Reply #9 on: Monday 16 November 15 07:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Davies51,

All records seem to indicate his middle name is William and Trish has posted an enormous amount of relevant information for you to follow up on.
Jo  :)
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Re: Frederick Briggs
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 November 15 03:34 GMT (UK) »
From this Site;
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html

FW Briggs was Married twice.


MARRIAGE REG;
1856, BRIGGS, Frederick William BRIGGS/Elizabeth LEIGH, Burra, 10/36

DEATH REG;
1860   12/237, BRIGGS, Elizabeth,   undefined, Burra

BIRTH REGS;
856   BRIGGS, Frederick William, Parents-Frederick William BRIGGS/Elizabeth LEIGH,    Burra, 10/36
1858   BRIGGS, Harrold Hamilton*, Parents-Frederick William BRIGGS/Elizabeth LEIGH, Burra    14/406

The Parents I found for Frederick William Briggs ROBERT/ELEANOR Frances name a Child;
ISABELLA HAMILTON* Briggs, 7 April 1817

I rest my case.


Do you have his Death Cert davies51?

EDIT;

Harold Hamliton Briggs married Annie JENNINGS 1883
He died 1933, 550/366, BRIGGS    Harold Hamilton,   Norwood

Frederick William Briggs Jnr died 1914, Reg Frome


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Re: Frederick Briggs
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 November 15 03:53 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant work Trish...........

Certainly "no stone unturned"!!!  ;D

Annie
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Re: Frederick Briggs
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 17 November 15 03:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to all this has been helpful but still can't find a date, ship or place he arrived in Aust.
His death is 23 Dec 1905 at Melrose South Aust. That part is not a problem.


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Re: Frederick Briggs
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 17 November 15 05:40 GMT (UK) »
Awesome job Trish  :)

Davies51, i think Trish was asking if you have the actual death certificate? If so can you please post the details contained in it?

Jo  :)
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Re: Frederick Briggs
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 17 November 15 06:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jo, yes that is what I meant.
Thanks Annie for your kind words.

If this was my Family (as I have done for mine) I would be buying the 1856 M/C, the 1861 M/C and and they Death Cert of 1905.

The Hamilton link is what confirms it for me.

As to his arrival he may have arrived elsewhere and moved to Sth Australia.

Trish :)
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Re: Frederick Briggs
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 11:43 BST (UK) »
Hi I'm new to this chat room. I have been looking for Frederick William's death for a long time. ( He is my g-g-grandfather. Your info confirms everything I have found). My Aunt went to Melrose and told me that she had found his burial there, but I've never been able to confirm it. The only contradiction to your date is that he was described as the late F. W., when his daughter Eliza or 'Dolly"married Robert Trail Muir in Albany, in 1902. But it might be explained if he had deserted the family. He is in the SA police Gazette for desertion around the time of her birth. (They gave a desription '5ft9" sandy hair and beard slight build I think)  I couldn't find a marriage record for Elizabeth and FW, but they had a daughter Frances Ann in Adelaide in 1851  3/212. She married a Williams around 1870. I have a photocopy of the marriage certificate of Mary Ann Ford nee Mc Evoy and FW 1861. My grandmother told me stories about Mary Ann and we have her photo. I also found that Hawkhill is now a B & B. You can see it on google streetview. Love to hear anything more.

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Re: Frederick Briggs
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 12:25 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat mariaf,

Hopefully  davies51 will reply to you soon.
Although he hasnt been on Rootschat since 2015.

Just out of curiousity can you type up the details from the 1861 Marriage Cert you have please?

I also realised I made a mistake 1856 was a Birth Reg for a Son of FW and Elizabeth Briggs, not a Marriage.
I also see your Frances Ann 1851's Birth Reg now.

Trish :)
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Re: Frederick Briggs
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 12:49 BST (UK) »
So FW/Elizabeth have Children;
FRANCES ANN 1851
FREDERICK WILLIAM 1856
HARROLD HAMILTON 1858
FW/MARY have Children;
MARGARET 1861, died 1867
JOHN 1863
WILLIAM 1867
EDWARD 1869
ELLEN 1872, died 1872
WINNIE 1874
ELIZA 1876
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