Anoni or Annoni, Trendall, Selby and Simmins - records and descendants

[ewontner]

Hello all, I am researching the 'Anoni' or 'Annoni' family in Australia.

One of my relatives was an Alex Francis Anoni (or Annoni) who I know he had a daughter Doris Isabel Anoni (born 1919). Doris married a Stephen Turner Selby in 1935. According to Ancestry he was born in about 1913/14 and died on 6 April 1987. Doris must have divorced because she died in 1974 with the surname Trendall having married a George Frederick Trendall (dates unknown)

Does anyone recognise these names from their research? I think they lived in Henty, Victoria.

I am also interested in finding out if they had any descendants.

I have also come across a marriage record on the Victoria BMD site which lists a Hetta (or Henrietta Anoni) being married in 1927 to William Simmins. I don't know when she was born but wondered if she was also any relation and who are parents might be.

Thanks in advance for your help

Ed Osborne

[sparrett]

Hi Ed,
This item will be of interest to you

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/204023102

I am not  certain that all of the people about whom you are requesting information are deceased. Are you ?
For that reason, the team here will not be able to assist.

Read this link
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Sue

[cando]

I assume you are taking the information from an online tree or subscription only website as the year of birth for Doris is earlier than you have stated.

Birth
ANONI Doris Isabel
Father Alex Francis  Mother Ethel JEFFRIES
At Armadale  1918  Reg#16195

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1412501
The Argus 21 Sep 1918
ANONI. - On the 25th August, at; ''Nerrina" private hospital, Armadale, the wife of Mr. A. F. Anoni, South Yarra - a daughter (Doris Isabel).

Death
RENDALL Doris Isobel
Father ANONI Francis  Mother Ethel  JEFFRIES
At Prahran  55 years  1974  Reg#2582

Doris's cremation record at Springvale Botanical cemetery
http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/387872

Her death certificate should list both marriages and children from both including their ages at her time of death.
You can purchase an image of certificates in Victoria online and immediately download
http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/

You need to view the image of the electoral roll to see the address.  Doris was enrolled to vote living in the Electoral Division of Henty.

Australian Electoral Roll
1936, 1937
SELBY Stephen Turner  11 Wilton Grove, Elwood Painter

1943
SELBY Doris Isabel 49 Shelley Street, Elwood Munitions worker
[Only SELBY to vote at this address]

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1094575
The Argus 25 May 1945
MISSING FRIENDS
TO STEPHEN TURNER SELBY, Formerly of 11 Welton Grove, Elwood, a Member of the Australian Imperial Forces. But Now of Parts Unknown.-Take notice that your wife, Doris Isabelle Selby, has instituted proceedings for a divorce on the ground of desertion.
Unless you ENTER an APPEARANCE in the office of the Prothonotary of the Supreme Court of Victoria at Melbourne on or before the 21st day of June, 1945, the case may proceed In your absence.
If you Intend to defend the suit you must file an answer In the said office on or before the 1st day of July, 1945; and further take notice that the sealed copy petition and copy citation in this suit may be inspected at the office of the petitioner's solicitor. HULBERT A. GREENING, 422 Collins street, Melbourne, solicitor for the petitioner._

1949
TRENDALL Doris Isabel  192 Neerim Road, Carnegie HD

1972
TRENDALL Doris Isabel 2/13 Garden Avenue Carnegie  HD
TRENDALL George Frederick 2/13 Garden Avenue Carnegie  Fitter

George died in 1990
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54
TRENDALL George Frederick      
Retired    Woodside Beach    13 Aug 1990    
1041/779    VPRS 28/P21, unit 168; VPRS 7591/P17,

George's WW2 Service Summary
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=N&veteranId=1176010

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Jun 1919
TRENDALL    George F    Ford    Willesden    3a/341   

and possible marriage of parents

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Mar 1908 
FORD    Alice         Hendon    3a/381    
TRENDALL    George Frederick         Hendon    3a/381

Australian Electoral Roll
1958  New South Wales
SELBY Stephen Turner  81 Cameron Street Rockdale, Painter
 
Marriage in NSW
17988/1952     
SELBY Stephen Turner
WHITE Iris Edna    
District Marrickville

Stephen's WW2 Service summary
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=440702

Cando

[cando]

http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

SELBY   Stephen Turner   
Death notice   6 Apr 1987   Death   73    
Late of Potato Point   Published in the Sydney Morning Herald   7 Apr1987   

SELBY   Iris Edna   
Death notice   21 Jul L2014   Death    96       
Published in the St George & Sutherland Leader    24 Jul 2014   

Cando

[cando]

Stephen and Iris were cremated and their ashes placed at

http://www.woronoracemetery.org.au/finding-loved-ones

Cando

[cando]

I have also come across a marriage record on the Victoria BMD site which lists a Hetta (or Henrietta Anoni) being married in 1927 to William Simmins. I don't know when she was born but wondered if she was also any relation and who are parents might be.

I wonder if the Hetta is a mistranscription or was she aka Ethel.

Alex ANONI died in 1922.

Death
ANONI Alex Fras
Parents unknown
At Kew  45 years  1922  Reg#5749

Perhaps he died in the Kew Asylum.  Inquests were routinely held into deaths in public institutions.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gtr/

Inquest Index
ANONI Alexander Francis
1922  Ref#484
Cause Broncho pneumonia
Inquest Date   21 Jun 1922

and marriage

Marriage
ANONI Alexander Francis Born England
JEFFRIES Ethel  Born Fitzroy
1911  Reg#2239

Australian Electoral Roll
1921
ANONI Alexander Francis  Pastrycook Shop, Dandenong Road, Malvern East  Engineer
ANONI Ethel  Pastrycook Shop, Dandenong Road, Malvern East  HD

1922
ANONI Ethel  Pastrycook Shop, Dandenong Road, Malvern East  HD

1924, 1927
ANONI Ethel  37 Davis Street, Elsternwick HD

Marriage
ANONI Hetta
SIMMINS Wm
1928  Reg#6893

Australian Electoral Roll
1937
SIMMINS Ethel 385 New Street Elsternwick  HD
SIMMINS William 385 New Street  Elsternwick  Labourer

1942
SIMMINS Ethel  37 Davis Street, Elsternwick
SIMMINS William   37 Davis Street, Elsternwick  Labourer

1949, 1954
SIMMINS Ethel  37 Davis Street, Elsternwick  HD

And is this her death

SIMMINS Henrietta Victor
Father JEFFRIES Phillip  Mother Elizabeth  JONES
At Cheltenham  75 years  1962  Reg#4791

And birth
Birth
JEFFRIES Henrietta Victor
Father Phillip  Mother Elizabeth JONES
At Fitzroy  1887  Reg#11099

Probate file at PROV
SIMMINS Henrietta V    Widow    Elsternwick    14 Mar 1962    
579/631    VPRS 28/P4, unit 2531; VPRS 7591/P3, unit 415

There is a probate file for an Ethel SIMMINS in 1959 however she appears have been born and died a SIMMINS with father James and Mother Eliza PRICE.

Cando

[cando]

There is another birth notice for a daughter for Alexander and Ethel in 1916
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2108948

ANONI Ethel Frances
Father Alex Francis  Mother Ethel JEFFRIES
At Ringwood  1916  Reg#6963

Cando

[ewontner]

Thanks for everyone's help so far.

I love researching the Anonni/Anoni family. They are fascinating. Unfortunately I don't think there are many living descendants but hopefully some of what you've found out will give me some new leads. I did spot the records on Trove but wasn't aware of some of the other records eg interesting that Alex died in an asylum.

I was pretty sure that all the people listed were desceased but just didn't know exact details.

I have a few more questions regarding NSW marriage and death certificates.

Re. Death certificates is there a high probability that all marriages and any children will be listed? I thought death records didn't go into so much detail and only recorded age, place and cause of death.

Re marriage certificates are these also comprehensive. For instance the Hetta Anoni/William Simmins marriage index doesn't list all relations. Does this mean that the certificate is incomplete.

Also I  think my next step will be to identify where the pastry shop run by Alex and Ethel Anoni was!

 

Ed Osborne

[rosball]

Hi Ed,
   here's what to expect on a marriage and death cert for the various years in the different states
http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

   Did you know you can order a transcript of a NSW marriage or death cert which is cheaper and they e-mail it to you.  http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx  Scroll down to the bottom where it says "Ask a family transcription agent"

  By the way your post has landed on the Completed Look-ups board.  But don't worry I will ask a moderator to move it for you 

regards,
   Ros