John Davies Henllan

[beckwith]

Hi
Would anyone be able to help me, I have John Davies, a weaver born Henllan in 1759, I am searching for his marriage to an Anne ,and his parents Owen Davies and a Jane. I can't find records of marriage records of either couple and would be most grateful if anyone could help. John and Anne had a son called Isaac also from Henllan

[ScouseBoy]

What was their address, do you know?

Henllan  would have been a very small village at that date.

[beckwith]

HiJohn Davies and his wife
No I don't have an address. Isaac lived in the "village" in the 1851 census and in Bryn Park in the 1841 census. He was baptised in Henllan Church and his parents were John Davis  weaver and his wife Anne

[dragonT]

Hi,

Clwyd FHS have complete transcriptions of Henllan Parish Registers in six volumes covering 1684-1812 available here:

http://www.clwydfhs.org.uk/publications/registers-books.htm#H

I have some of them and have found some of the records you may be looking for.

There is only one marriage with an Owen Davies between 1684 and 1799:
3 Nov 1760 - Owen Davies (Ba) and Jane Jones (Sp), both o/H (of Henllan). Witnesses William Davies and John Roberts.
But it seems to me that this is may not be the marriage you are looking for, for two reasons.

1. There are a series of baptisms for children of Owen Davies and Jane, all with abode Llann, perhaps an abbreviation for Llansannan?:
Ann-6 Mar 1757, John-19 Aug 1759, Robert-21 Mar 1762, Mary-28 Apr 1765, Richard-27 Jul 1768, Elizabeth-28 Jun 1772, Robert-26 Apr 1776.
Clearly John and Ann were born before the marriage mentioned and there is no indication that they were illegitimate children.

2. There are two burials:
Owen Davies, 79, died 19 Mar 1811, buried 23 Mar 1811. He is described as 'Thatcher, Llan'. The record gives additional information - son of David Hughes (Joiner) & Anne (Edwards), Rhyd yr Arian, Llansannan.

Jane Davies, 79, died 2 Mar 1809, buried 6 Mar 1809, wife of Owen, Thatcher, Llan. She was the daughter of Edward Davies (Lab) & Mary, Llan. (So not Jane Jones)

There is a marriage:
John Davies m. Ann Foulkes (both of Henllan parish) 19 Apr 1785. Witnesses John Hughes, William Foulkes. I can't see another marriage involving a John Davies between 1776 and 1799.

I hope this helps.

[beckwith]

Hi Dragon
Thank you so much for your help. Isaac born 1789 had a brother John born 1786, so I think the Anne Foulkes is the one, their marriage being 1785. Also the other information is fantastic
Isaac married a Sarah Jones in Henllan in 1811 and her parents mentioned in the entry were Richard Jones  miller and his wife Mary, they were all of Henllan parish. Would you be able to see if you have any details about them? Thank you again for your time, it is most appreciated

[dragonT]

Hi beckwith,

I've searched Henllan PR transcripts for records for Isaac Davies, his siblings and his wife Sarah Jones, what I’ve found is below. There are also some referring to John Davies and Anne Foulkes.

Isaac Davies b. 10 Nov, bpt. 14 Nov 1790 - son of John (Weaver) & Anne [no abode]

Possible siblings:
John Davies bpt. 2 Feb 1786 - John & Anne (Foulkes), Llann
Elizabeth Davies b. 21 Aug, bpt. 25 Aug 1794 - dau. of John & Anne, Llan
Hugh Davies b. 19 Jul, bpt. 24 Jul 1796 - son of John & Anne, Henllan St
Abel Davies b. 20 Jul, bpt. 23 Jul 1797 - son of John & Anne, Llan
Mary Davies b. 18 Jun, bpt. 28 Jun 1799 - dau. of John & Anne, Ty
(There are no Davies baptisms with parents John and Anne 1800-1810)

Two possible baptisms for Anne Foulkes:
Ann Foulkes bpt. 21 May 1758 - dau. of Edward & Mary, Llan
Anne Foulkes bpt. 9 Jan 1765 - dau. of Edward & Elizabeth, Llan

There is a burial for a John Davies, weaver, Llan, aged 59 on 13 May 1811. He was the son of David (labourer) and Elizabeth (Hughes), Henryd. So not the John Davies who interests you, but another John Davies, weaver, Llan!

Isaac's wife Sarah was 21 when they married but there is no suitable baptism with parents Richard & Mary. There are two with different parents:
Sarah Jones b.5 Aug, bpt. 8 Aug 1790 - dau. of David & Mary, Llanwithin
Sarah Jones b.19 May, bpt. 20 May 1792 - dau. of William & Jane, [no abode]

Not much help I'm afraid.

[beckwith]

Hi Dragon
Thank you very much for your help. The only book I have if the contents are of any interest to you is  Achau Rhai O Deuluoedd Hen Sired Caernarfon, Meirionydd A Threfaldwyn   by T.Ceiri Griffith if I could look anything up for you at any time
Thanks again Beckwith

[tellyman]

HI, If it helps your searches, my wife's great, great ------ great granddad appears to be John Davies. His son and grandson were Abel and my daughter has, to date, traced Abel back to Holywell from where he moved to Bolton, Lancs.
 My late mother in law was Harriet Davies. Hope this helps, Tellyman