George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3

[BushInn1746]

Regarding the last post, it is my feeling (not fully understood though), that some of those signing the Release during a sale were Owners and interested parties, such as Solicitors, Occupiers, Tenants, Leasees etc, because they have to give up any right, to enable the sale of the property, to take place.

The Lease part is therefore possibly the transfer of ownership part.

Edward White of Great Marlborough Street was a Solicitor.
White and Pigot of Great Marlborough Street were Solicitors.

Regards Mark

[dobfarm]

Good morning Mark

I would think the legal London names are involved mostly being that the big Petre family estate is more national family affair in legal issues, than if the property owners had been a local more lower class local person.

Rents, tenant lease doc's of the Petre property in Selby when R Gibson rented and change of tenancy to George Hood. The fact we know R Gibson was a tradesman self employed cooper or barrel maker business owner as a mechant in business with a cooper tradesman(s) working for him. I can't remember off hand if R Gibson advertised for a worker tradesman cooper as assistant or skilled cooper to run the business as a barrel maker. circa 1800

Scenarios

George Hood a cooper skilled or semi skilled craftsman with business skills- could have been taught by R Gibson - George would have been about aged 13 or 14 in 1800 and if Gibson did not find a cooper to work for him 1800 advert - he could have taken George on to train him skills of being ta businessman in business of /cooper/tanner/brewer businesses- These are businesses that need a certain high knowledge of education and skill >>> from  R Gibson

or

George Hood bringing skills with him was much older aged about 21 between years 1800 to 1807 and he answered one of R Gibson's advert for a skilled cooper in post years circa years 1800/7.

or

George bought the bankrupt business as a business liquidator to turn it around- bought from afar - maybe a newspaper advert 1810/12

[BushInn1746]

Tristram Hood July 1735, York, Vol.84, fol.96 and
Tristram Hood Nov 1741, York, Admin 2, (MF1209 noted for Admin 2)

From Parish Records

Tristrum Hood buried 3 July 1735 York, St Sampson Occupation blacksmith

Thanks Goughy

Whilst looking for my 'Spencer' notes, I came across Hood / Clark notes ...

Trustrum Hood married Mary Clark Hemingbrough, Yorks, 31 July 1722.

Printed Book - The Register of Marriages in York Minster
(113). 16 December 1686, Tristrum Hood & Ellen Briggs, both of Yorke.

Freemen of the City of York
p.161 Trustram Hood, blacksmith 1684-5
p.215 Per Patres
Johannes Hood, fil. Tristram Hood, blacksmith 1718-9
p.262 By Patrimony
Robert Hood, blacksmith, son of John Hood, blacksmith 1741-3

Regards Mark

https://archive.org/stream/registeroffreem02surtuoft
Index - Hood, Hodd & Hudd ...
Jac. p.125;
Joh. p.153, p.163, p.192, p.202, p.215, p.262;
Pet.161;
Rob. p.141, p.262;
Tho. p.192;
Trist. p.161, p.215;
Will. p.161.

[BushInn1746]

Hello All

Thank you for recent replies.

The advert by R. Gibson of Selby was in 1800 ...

To COOPERS.
WANTED Immediately, A JOURNEY-
MAN COOPER, who is perfect Master of his
Business, and has been accustomed to make Kitls and
Buckets.- He must be well recommended for Honesty
and Sobriety.
Apply (if by Letter Post-paid,) to Mr. Richard
Gibson, Cooper, Selby.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728231.msg5787897#msg5787897

According to the Wren Lane & Micklegate Deed, Thomas Holliday had previously been in the same premises as Richard Gibson. Also George Hood would only be 13 to 15 in 1800, I feel we can rule George out as an experienced Cooper answering the 1800 advert.

LMA looked up the only surviving related Gibson bankruptcy document, which was a list of names entered by the Guildhall Hallkeeper, but despite requesting a copying cost, suggested the names may not be relevant.

Disappointed, someone at LMA went to the trouble of looking, but never emailed the names in their reply.

John Spencer, Mariner of Scarborough, Father to Elizabeth Spencer
There were so many John Spencer, Yorkshire Wills, but are there any possible burial dates, please at Scarborough?

Elizabeth Spencer (aka Leppington and then Hood) would have born circa 1737 (26 yrs old in Dec 1763) and any John Spencer Will might be too early, to be referring to my George Hood, but someone later in the Spencer tree, might mention George Hood if they left a Will.

"Elizabeth Wife of John Hood" was buried Scarborough 24 Dec 1775 (image PE 165/43), coincidentally the same day Maudland Hood is claimed to be baptised on IGI. But two John Hood of Scarborough Mariners, both married an Elizabeth (1759 & 1763).

Although, John Hood of Selby Mariner was Maudland Hood's father, any link to George is unconfirmed.

Until something appears online, or a chance Archive find I think we are at a dead-end.

John Hood and Maudland Hood (who married a Charles Turner at Selby, aka Morland Turner and Mordland Turner) were buried Selby.

George Hood died Selby 18 Sept 1845, but birthplace, his father/mother and his burial place, all a mystery.

Kind regards Mark

[dobfarm]

Lets change tac a little.

George Hood would have be a fully skilled cooper age 21 in 1800 he would have to be aged 66 at death 1845 born 1779 (Working on the marriage of intent 1778 of John Hood widower a mariner of Scarborough to Sarah Hammond at Middlesex 1778)

One newspaper had George Hood death age 63 in 1845

Who was the person being informant of the death or present at death of George Hood 1845 Selby ? Death certificate

Comparison of 1763 John Hood signature a mariner of Scarborough marriage to Elizabeth Leppington (Spencer) (Died 1775) to the 1778 John Hood signature mariner of Scarborough to Sarah Hammond.

[BushInn1746]

Hello dobfarm and All.

Can't add attachments here. Regarding your questions, 1763 & 1759 Signatures are here (Occupation Interests). Captain John Hood, ... :-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg6002369#msg6002369
to compare with your 1778 signature (which I also have).

Registration District Selby
1845. Death in the Sub -district of Selby in the County of York
Eighteenth of September 1845 at Selby
George HOOD
Male
60 years
Tanner
Disease of the Heart 18 months certified
William Hood present at death Gowthorpe Selby
Nineteenth of September 1845 [When registered]
John Fothergill Junior Registrar

"George Hood of Selby" said he was 28 yrs of age on his 16th May 1815 Selby Marriage Intent/Bond and also 28 yrs recorded at Marriage in July 1815. At death George would have been 58 yrs, or just turned 59 yrs of age (59 would be in his 60th year).

Regards Mark

[dobfarm]

No similarities in signatures then - now 3 John Hood mariners of Scarborough.
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What have you on Richard Gibson on Tax polls - his last year at Wren Lane and where he is in Selby after 1810

If Richard Gibson brought George Hood up as a scholar in the cooper business from say 1800 to 1806 to 1808  George being 21 if R Gibson  did not get an assistant that he advertised for 1800. George Hood should have been on the Tax poll from 1809
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Look for George Hood's anywhere/country wide place including Scotland who suddenly appears on Tax polls from say post 1806 - at when he would be earliest age 21 or taxable full age

Scotland and Ireland newspapers 1806 - 1812 outside chance reports on Gibson or George business activity -coopers/barrel makers

[BushInn1746]

Hello dobfarm and All

Thank you for your reply, I have put another post here regarding Roman Catholicism at Selby in the 1780s, as my brief note might be helpful generally and might lead to baptism records at Stourton?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=751862.new#new

As, I had been struggling to understand how the Roman Catholics were controlled at Selby in the 1780s.

Kind regards Mark

[dobfarm]

Hello dobfarm and All

Thank you for your reply, I have put another post here regarding Roman Catholicism at Selby in the 1780s, as my brief note might be helpful generally and might lead to baptism records at Stourton?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=751862.new#new

As, I had been struggling to understand how the Roman Catholics were controlled at Selby in the 1780s.

Kind regards Mark

BumbleB earlier post RC theory and your theory !!, RC -Places/date years in Selby of RC activity and John & George Hood activity places.date years has close parallels in time also Petre family------------ Theory has substance.

St Mary’s Catholic Church, Carlton (Maybe George died 1845 and Sarah Hood buried there)

http://stmarysselby.org.uk/

http://stmarysselby.org.uk/history.htm

The church, presbytery and a school opened on the 31st August 1842 (Google maps show a graveyard at the church in Carlton)