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Re: A Royal Connection? or not?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 09:49 GMT (UK) »

An Alberta M RIDLEY aged 36 arrived in Wellington on the Tainui in 1922 - ex Familysearch. On Ancestry she was just Miss A aged 36 a 'Lady" from Basingstoke.


Yes, some of the local newspaper articles I found (after previously posting details of her later voyages to NZ), state that she arrived here in 1922.   She travelled frequently over many years between UK and NZ, spending time with her mother back in England.  [Haven't looked at her arrival details for entry to UK.]

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Re: A Royal Connection? or not?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 09:59 GMT (UK) »
There is this baptism at All Saints Knightsbridge.

1886 Feb 9
Alberta Mary, d/o Charles Nicholas and Henrietta Agnes RIDLEY, 14 Princes Gate, Gentleman

Probably the same one whose birth was registered Mar qtr 1886 St George Hanover Square.

This one married a Rupert Barton WILLIAMSON-WICKHAM at St James Westminster in 1916.


The actual image of the above 1916 "marriage", has a diagonal line ruled through it, and in the margin is a note stating "this marriage was postponed".

Appears to be the same Alberta Mary RIDLEY (as is being sought), address South Warnborough Lodge, Winchfield.  Name of her Father, as written on the register copy, shown only as "RIDLEY" - no occupation entered.

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Edited to add:   There was in fact another image for a marriage between these parties, which showed that they eventually wed on 26 March 1916.  Father's name shown as Charles Nicholas RIDLEY.

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Re: A Royal Connection? or not?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Lu

There are two entries for that marriage, the first dated 22 March with a line through. The second one at the same church on 26 March.

CWW McLEAN was born in New Brunswick in Canada and died there in 1962. His probate gave his estate as 505 pounds in England.

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Re: A Royal Connection? or not?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your interesting contributions.

It is possible the marriage in India is not that of the lady we are looking for. Her name was Alberta May whereas the lady connected to New Zealand seems to have consistently used Mary as her second Christian name. And has been pointed out, the name of the father is different.

Could someone please tell me which newspaper would have covered Dargaville in 1963? I will try and obtain a death notice and perhaps there may also have been an obituary.

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: A Royal Connection? or not?
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Lu

There are two entries for that marriage, the first dated 22 March with a line through. The second one at the same church on 26 March.

CWW McLEAN was born in New Brunswick in Canada and died there in 1962. His probate gave his estate as 505 pounds in England.

Ian C

Thanks Ian ... I was too hasty in posting and missed looking at the second image.   ::)  (Got it sorted now.)

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Re: A Royal Connection? or not?
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 10:21 GMT (UK) »
It would appear the marriage to Williamson-Wickham was annulled in 1921 on the grounds that he was already married to two other women ( both still living). Apparently after the marriage he had borrowed money from Alberta and had treated her badly. He was sent to South Africa on military service and sent her no allowance. In Nov 1918 she learned that he had been dismissed the service and was living in SA with a woman he had 'married' in 1907. Also discovered that he had been previously married in 1886 in Eastbourne ( must have been a lot older than Alberta). Northern Daily Mail 25/5/1921 on BNA.
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Re: A Royal Connection? or not?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Minnie

I have a feeling that the marriage in India is for the Alberta Mary (McLEAN) you are seeking.   ;)

Somewhere at PapersPast is a reference (think I mentioned it earlier) re: Alberta (of Dargaville) being Mrs. Weldon McLEAN.   ;)

I do wonder if the anomalies in the India marriage record (father's name, etc.) have to do with the fact that Alberta's first husband was still alive ???
Checking now to see if I can find a death for him.

   ~  Lu

Edit:    I've just noticed that Isobel has come to "the party" with that very helpful additional info.    :)

   

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Re: A Royal Connection? or not?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Certainly an interesting lady ........

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZH19341012.2.5.5&srpos=22&e=-------10--21----2alberta+mclean--

And as Lu has mentioned, in another article she is referred to as Mrs. Weldon McLean. Who was he?

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: A Royal Connection? or not?
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Minnie ... very probably there was an Obit publish for Alberta McLEAN (1963).

I should think the "Northern Advocate" is the newspaper which might carry such an article.

   ~   Lu

PS :   I'd also try the "New Zealand Herald".