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John Whitehouse burial 1834 to 1841, Loughborough ?
« on: Saturday 16 April 16 09:16 BST (UK) »
Suggestions and/or look-ups to find a burial of John Whitehouse, probably mid to late 1830s and probably in Loughborough, would be very welcome.  I am unfamiliar with Leicestershire genealogy and live about 150 miles from Loughborough.  I have recorded many, many years ago that I checked Loughborough All Saints for a burial, without finding one, but I am beginning to doubt the accuracy of that negative finding.  It's so easy to trawl a film and miss something through inattention.  Below, I tell the story as best I can so far.

John Whitehouse, a metal plater in Birmingham, born about 1787, removed to Loughborough with his wife Sarah and family in 1824-25.   The book "Nottingham Lace 1760s-1950s" by Sheila A. Mason (author & publisher), Ilkeston 1994, revised ed. 2010, contains a section on Loughborough Lace Makers at pp 319-320.  Included in the list of Lace Makers is "John Whitehouse 1829 (2 twist machines), 1835 ..."  Leicestershire Archives reported that they checked the Loughborough section of Pigot's Directory and found John Whitehouse of Regent St. under Manufacturers of Twist Lace in the 1831 & 1835 directories, but that he is not in the 1828/29 or 1830 ones. The Directory would not necessarily be up to date as of the year of publication, so it can be reasonably supposed that John was alive in Loughborough in 1834.  It is not known when or where he died, but by the 1841 census of Carrington, Nottingham, Sarah was widowed.  All GRO entries from 1st July 1837 to the end of 1841, in the name John Whitehouse, with or without a second forename, show deaths in other places than Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire or even Derbyshire.  Mostly they are in the West Midlands where the surname has a strong regional bias.

John was baptised in 1787 at Wednesbury parish church as John Negus Whitehouse, being the son of Richard Whitehouse and Sarah Negus and probably born in the same year, but the middle name "Negus" has appeared nowhere else.  Two of his older children married in the 1830s, Elisheba at Loughborough All Saints in 1833 and Elizabeth at Nottingham St Peter in 1832.  His other children married after the aforesaid 1841 census, in the Nottingham area.  Of his younger children, Sarah Ann Whitehouse was baptised 25 July 1825 at Loughborough All Saints, thus underpinning John's time of arrival in Loughborough to 1824-25 (probably), Emma was born 1827-28, no baptism found for her, place of birth unknown and Edwin (otherwise Edward) born 1830-31 in Loughborough, no baptism found for him.  Both Edwin & Emma, for whom no baptisms were found, are on the aforesaid 1841 census where they were supposedly born in Nottinghamshire, while daughter Sarah and the children older than her were not.  I have included this much detail to give a fuller picture and prevent anyone from wasting their valuable time telling me things that I already know.

I have been so impressed by the Leicestershire look-up pages that I have put on my "humble suit" to ask for help, please.
Keith  :)


   
            
            
            
            
         
         

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Re: John Whitehouse burial 1834 to 1841, Loughborough ?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 April 16 10:20 BST (UK) »
Good Morning Keith,  :)

Thank you for your recent help to me, it is much appreciated. Hopefully I may be able to reciprocate.

There are a number of Whitehouse people buried at Loughborough, but unfortunately none for a  John Whitehouse at all on the Leicestershire Burial index I have.

However, as you mentioned Nottingham and give his age, we have this burial:

BURIAL  - NOTTINGHAM St Nicholas - 3rd April 1836
John WHITEHOUSE, age 49, abode = March Street.

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Re: John Whitehouse burial 1834 to 1841, Loughborough ?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 April 16 15:35 BST (UK) »
Hello Keith,

I see Sarah Whitehouse was with son James in 1851 and as I have James memorial inscription I thought you might like the details .If you don't have them already?

Memorial Inscriptions - General Cemetery Nottingham - section 4
Inscription order - 1 =  James WHITEHOUSE - date of death = 15th June 1879 - aged 57yrs
Inscription order - 2 =  Madame Kate DEPORT - date of death = 26th Oct 1874 - aged 20yrs - His daughter. Died St Pierre Les Calais
Inscription order - 3 =  Henry J Whitehouse - date of death = 28th Dec 1882 - aged 4yrs 8mths
Inscription order - 4 =  Lucy WHITEHOUSE - date of death = 17th April 1890 - aged 66yrs - Wife of the above James.
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I see Sarah Whitehouse is with her son Richard and family in Handsworth in 1861.I did wonder if it is the same Sarah who was also buried at the General Cemetery, Nottingham. Unfortunately the GRO index does not give ages until 1866 and after.

I do not have a subscription or any credits left to help, but it might be worth it to see at: http://deceasedonline.com/
It says Sarah Whitehouse was buried on the 15th Dec 1861 and six other burials are with her. I would expect three of those are the ones mentioned on the memorial inscription above.

Kind Regards

Dizzifish

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NOTE: Just double checked James' burial on deceasedonline and he has three other burials with him, I can't be sure re Sarah  :-\

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Re: John Whitehouse burial
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 April 16 15:49 BST (UK) »
Crikey, thanks Dizzifish.  Part of my troubles has been that a good deal of my research took place in the "steam age" and I must have forgotten to try the Notts FHS Burials Index, which I suspect was your source, and/or got into a rut of believing that he died in Loughborough.  That apparently small piece of information has made my day and is helping with the very final stages of my Whitehouse family tree, so thank you again.
All the best, Keith
PS:  If you need a look-up in the London area, let me know.  I visit SoG, TNA (Kew) or the London Family History Centre at TNA every month or so and can visit any other repository in Greater London.
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Re: John Whitehouse burial
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 April 16 16:17 BST (UK) »
Hello again Dizzifish,
Thanks for drawing these other things to my attention.  You are right about all of them.  I have seen the General Cemetery records for James Whitehouse etc. via a different source.  I am familiar with the Handsworth branch, thanks.  I have Sarah's death certificate and never bothered to check her burial, but perhaps I had better do so.  A man who sometimes works alongside me at the local library says that deceasedonline ought to be available at TNA on their computers without charge, but is not yet, because, he alleges, there has been footdragging by dol.  I don't know how true that is, but you have reminded me to make a fuss if necessary on my next visit to TNA. 
Thanks yet again, Keith  :)

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Re: John Whitehouse burial 1834 to 1841, Loughborough ?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 April 16 16:27 BST (UK) »

Only just seen this & glad you found what you were after.


I can do any Loughborough or villages in area lookups in L'boro library, so if you have any further queries please ask. I am in regularly.


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