Help wanted for Williams Please!!

[mitch205]

Hi there! My name is Michelle and i am trying to locate my mother-in-laws family as she has ask me to do her family tree.
Her father was Gerard Cowell Williams born 30 March 1906 in Montgomeryshire Shropshire he married Rosina (Rose) Crighton born 30 May 1904 they married 6 June 1931 in Godalming, , Surrey, England.  His father was Harry Williams born abt 1868 he married Constance Oakley born 8 Nov 1867 they married about 1893 in London. I would like to go back further down the williams side please.
I have hit a snag. As i live in New zealand all help from England etc is most apprieciative
Cheers
Michelle

[Arranroots]

For additional background info see also

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,74516.msg306999.html#msg306999

Hope to get back to this later if someone else hasn't helped you by then, Michelle

Arranroots 

[mitch205]

Yes I have that info they told me to put the message in the essex section to see if someone could look up under essex look-ups
Thanks
Michelle

[Arranroots]

Sorry to confuse you Michelle: in order to help you we need to know what info you already have (it makes it easier to search and saves people looking up the same thing all over again).  There are things on your Welsh post that will help people to look for you in Essex - if you see what I mean!

Will have another look for you as soon as I get the children off to school 

Arranroots 

[Arranroots]

So to summarise what we already have:

I have found a Harry Williams married to a Constance M in 1901 at 24 The Crescent, Shrewsbury. He is described as an auctioneer. He was born in Layton , Essex.
Constance was born in London Piccadilly which ties in with a London marriage. Shrewsbury is near to Mongomeryshire.
also
Vera M Williams  aged 7  born Watford, Herts
Honor(?) C  do             2          Shrewsbury

I cannot see a Harry Willams born in Layton in earlier censuses but as my geographical knowledge of Essex is poor you should try putting a request under that county.

Harry is born 1861 and Constance born 1869.

The 1901 ref is RG13/2540 11 13

Gerard Cowell Williams birth in the second quarter of 1906.   the birth was registered in the Atcham District, volume 6a, Page 657.

The Marriage of Harry Williams and Constance Maria Oakley was in the 1st quarter of 1893 in Paddington District, volume 1a, page 21.

In the 1881 census for Oswestry, near to Atcham District there is an entry for a Harry Williams, born about 1867 in Oswestry, his parents were Jacob and Mary Williams, brothers and sisters Edward, George W, Thomas, Elizabeth, Margaret J.   

You are hoping to find Harry born Layton or vicinity in earlier censuses, where he will not be married.

Of course, by buying either the birth or marriage certs mentioned above you will get names that will make this seach much easier.

Having a look at the censuses now.

kind regards, Arranroots

[Arranroots]

Googling, mulitmapping etc produces no result for a place called Layton in Essex, so I have to join you earlier correspondent in saying I don't know where that is!!  Hence posting in Essex where we can all be educated, we hope! 

Now - this should be treated with A GREAT DEAL OF CAUTION!!

You need a cert to find out whether this is the right family.

RG9/ 1059 205 12

WILLIAMS Evan W H M 35 - engineer - Mdx London
WILLIAMS Emma W M 35 - Surrey Lambeth
WILLIAMS Evan S son 10 - scholar - Surrey Lambeth
WILLIAMS Isabella A dau 9 - scholar - Mdx London
WILLIAMS Edward son 8 - scholar - Mdx Hackney
WILLIAMS James A son 7 - scholar - ditto
WILLIAMS Arthur W son 6 - scholar - ditto
WILLIAMS Henry Harry W son 1 - Essex Plaistow

Address: 3 Libra Road, West Ham

I hope this is helpful - maybe some "locals" can comment (please)

Arranroots 

[Arranroots]

I see you have added to your original post which makes the above wrong.

Over to you.

[emilysiobhan]

Could Layton be Leyton  or even Leytonstone?

They're both not far from Plaistow (I think)

Emily

[Lielo]

1871 census for St. James, Westminster at RG10/134 folio 13 page 19:

Constance Oakley born 1868 St. James, Westminster
Beatrice 1864, St. James
Edith 1857 St. George, Hanover Square
Gertrude 1862 St. James
John A. 1855 St. George, Hanover Square
Harriet E wife 1831 Islington
John I. head 1829 Convent Garden, Middlesex a merchant
Living at 3 Piccadilly, St. James, Westminster.

Hope this helps.