Author Topic: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland  (Read 4710 times)

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Re: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 12 June 16 13:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Keith

The first one wasn't from Rootschat, it was just a shrink link because the website address was too long.  I agree when you see the lists of all the men from various vessels all killed at the same time does make sobering reading, although I suppose it still doesn't add up to the number of men killed on 1 July 1916 on the Somme.

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Re: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 June 16 11:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Keith

Here's one that has photographs of crew members of at least 2 vessels, although these were lost on 1 November 1914 in a battle of the Falkland Islands.

http://www.coronel.org.uk/casualties.php

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Re: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 15 June 16 11:35 BST (UK) »
Lizzie,
Thanks so much for that, so interesting, yet sad…
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Re: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 15 June 16 11:40 BST (UK) »
Still hoping to find the website I found earlier with photos of men who were lost in the Battle of Jutland.


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Re: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 16 June 16 12:16 BST (UK) »
Keith

I've just found this which you may find interesting, and very sad.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYpuxaDqG2Y

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Re: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 16 June 16 16:18 BST (UK) »
Lizzie,
Thanks so much for discovering that short tribute, very moving.  I have an old photo somewhere of my father and/or his elder brother wearing a Queen Mary sailor's cap - not sure whether they both had one on or not, must dig it up.  Presumably it must have belonged to their uncle, or would the caps have been given away as some kind of memento after the War…?
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Re: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 11:32 BST (UK) »
Here's another site which gives all the vessels and men lost during the Battle of Jutland.

www.northeastmedals.co.uk/britishguide/jutland/hms_invincible_casualty_list_1916.htm

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Re: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 12:05 BST (UK) »
Lizzie,
Thanks so much for all that extra information on the men lost during the Battle of Jutland!  I might ask the question I posed earlier in this thread on a more general more widely-read board - did either navy pick up survivors from the water in the aftermath and commit them as POW's, e.g. Alfred Thomas Sherwood.
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Re: Leading Stoker Samson SHERWOOD HMS Queen Mary Battle of Jutland
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 12:28 BST (UK) »
From https://livesofthefirstworldwar.org/community/702 - so it would seem that some survivors were picked up by Germans and made POWs.

"There were 20 survivors on HMS Queen Mary when it was sunk on 31st May 1916. HMS Petard picked up PO Ernest Francis, according to his report. One despatch stated that "Eighteen of her officers and men were subsequently picked up by "Laurel". A signal stated "It is understood that four Midshipmen and 13 men were picked up by Laurel". Midshipman Dearden and AB Sherwood were picked up by the Germans and became prisoners of war. Midshipman Durrant died of wounds on 6th June. It is unclear whether Stoker Edwards was picked up by "Laurel' or by a Geman U-Boat [see his story]. Records would indicate that there were only 2 POWs. AB Brend (invalided 5.3.24), Stoker 1c Bower (invalided 7.2.17 fracture Rt Tibia & Fibula), AB Cunnah (slightly wounded left RN 11.6.27 time expired), Midshipman Dearden (PoW), Midshipman Durrant (died of wounds 6/6/16), Stoker Edwards (details unclear), PO Forster (pensioned 1.12.22), PO Frances (invalided Haslar 27/2/19), Acting Leading Stoker Hughes (Left RN 2.9.24), Ordinary Seaman Hutchinson (deserted 6.10.19), Midshipman Lhoyd-Owen ( ), Leading Stoker Manners (pensioned 21.11.26), Boy 1c May (invalided 18.3.17 severely wounded), AB Meads (invalided 27.1.22), Leading Stoker Ralph (invalided 11.8.19), AB Sherwood (PoW), Stoker 1c Smith (invalided Haslar 9.7.24), Midshipman Storey (placed on retired list as Captain 8.1.49), Stoker Petty Officer Taylor (pensioned 19.7.22), Midshipman Van Der Byl (invalided 15.1.19 disease of eyes)"