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Offline markcafc

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Hey everyone,

I am trying to find some more info on my great great uncle and his children.

Henry George Williams was married to Kathleen Fielding and they had three children (Kathleen and Henry separated and Kathleen re-married a Mr Ryan).

Kathleen Williams - born 1923
Henry George Williams - born 1925
Elizabeth Williams - born 1927

I have the birth certs for all three of the kids. I know that Elizabeth died in 1950 aged just 23 (TB). However, I am trying to find more info on Kathleen. I have looked for a marriage but there are too many Kathleen Williams marrying in London 1947 +- 10years to be sure. Can anyone suggest what my next move should be?

TIA

Mark

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Re: The marriage of a Kathleen Williams, likely to be in Willesden, Middlesex:
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 13:41 BST (UK) »
Hi, have you tried finding them on the 1939 register, if you have birth dates, they are possibly still with mother?

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: The marriage of a Kathleen Williams, likely to be in Willesden, Middlesex:
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 13:44 BST (UK) »
Hi re Kathleen remarrying a Mr Ryan. why in London?

Kathleen Williams to John M Ryan September qtr 1951 Manchester 10e 836
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: The marriage of a Kathleen Williams, likely to be in Willesden, Middlesex:
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 13:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Cas,

Thanks for the reply :)

I have the mum Kathleen and the daughter Elizabeth. There are two records blanked out, and I am guessing these are Kathleen Jnr and Henry Jnr. I don't think they show the record if the person died after 1991?

Mark


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Re: The marriage of a Kathleen Williams, likely to be in Willesden, Middlesex:
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 13:46 BST (UK) »
Do you know when her father died?  If so, did he leave a Will. If so, may well mention his surviving children, and if Kathleen was married by the time he wrote it, then you will find her married name, or if not, then will at least rule that out or narrow down when she ay have married if she did.


Who were witnesses when mum remarried? Was Kathleen any of them?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: The marriage of a Kathleen Williams, likely to be in Willesden, Middlesex:
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 13:47 BST (UK) »
Marriages Dec 1941   
Fielding    Kathleen Ryan   Willesden    3a   1283
Ryan    Matthew    Williams    Willesden    3a   1283    
Ryan    Matthew    Fielding    Willesden    3a   1283
Williams Kathleen Ryan.       Willsden 3a 1283

Seems she remarried under maiden and married name?

Cas
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: The marriage of a Kathleen Williams, likely to be in Willesden, Middlesex:
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 13:49 BST (UK) »
Hi re Kathleen remarrying a Mr Ryan. why in London?

Kathleen Williams to John M Ryan September qtr 1951 Manchester 10e 836
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Hi keyboard86,

Thanks for your reply :)

Kathleen Fielding re-married to a Matthew Ryan in Willesden, London in 1941. I have the marriage cert and it shows that she was seperated form Henry George Williams.

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Re: The marriage of a Kathleen Williams, likely to be in Willesden, Middlesex:
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 13:50 BST (UK) »
Presumably it shows that previous marriage was dissolved, rather than they were just separated, otherwise she wouldn't be free to remarry.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: The marriage of a Kathleen Williams, likely to be in Willesden, Middlesex:
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 13:54 BST (UK) »
Presumably it shows that previous marriage was dissolved, rather than they were just separated.

Hi lizdb,

Thanks for the reply :)

I have the marriage cert at home and will let you know what it says fully when I get in. From memory, it was something like "Kathleen Fielding formerly the wife of Henry George Williams from which she is legally seperated"