HELP PLEASE? Need to find Alice Schofield ASAP?

[Ladyhawk]

the marriage certificate is on ancestry and gives the father of alice as
Thomas palfreyman lane - engine driver and
alice as 33 and a spinster.

I wonder if this is the family

Thomas Palfreman BRIGGS
1856 Oct-Nov-Dec York Volume:   9d Page:   32

Thomas Palfreeman BRIGGS
1878 Oct-Nov-Dec Lichfield Volume:   6b Page:   635
Female name on page
Eliza FISHER

1881 RG11; Piece: 4692; Folio: 20; Page: 34
Thos P BRIGGS & Eliza
mother in law Mary A Fisher

1891 RG12; Piece: 2679; Folio: 58; Page: 10
29 Annes(b)y Terrace Colwick Nottinghamshire
Thomas P BRIGGS 34 York Railway engine driver
Eliza 32
Florence 8
ALICE 5 Colwick Notts
Tom 3
Harry 1

Alice BRIGGS
1886 Jan-Feb-Mar Basford Volume:   7b Page:   258

1901 RG13; Piece: 3355; Folio: 58; Page: 47
37 Ernest Street Cheshire
More children Charlie BRIGGS 8, Miriam 5, Eva M 3

Edited

Dau Miriam Briggs marries St Jude Preston Lancashire 2 Sep 1918 to Edward Thomas Parry
Her father named as Thomas Phalphreyman Briggs deceased Engine Driver
One witness E M Briggs

[susan57]

Blimey this is all way too confusing now . Struggling with it all as nothing seems to tally.

[Ladyhawk]

my aunties birth certificate were for
"Alice Schofield, late Lane, formerly Briggs"

the marriage certificate is on ancestry and gives the father of alice as
Thomas palfreyman lane - engine driver and alice as 33 and a spinster.

I can't find an Alice LANE born c 1886 with father Thomas P (Palreyman) LANE on the 1891 or 1901 census 

Perhaps the Thomas Palfreyman Briggs & dau. Alice are a different family altogether 
but there are quite a few similarities, eg. his first names, his occupation, Alice's age/birth year

Was a mistake made on her 1919 m/c to John William Schofield perhaps
her father's surname should be Briggs and she should have been noted as a widow 

[susan57]

Hi dawnsh,
where did you find Schofield/Lane marriage with 3 births 1920, 1922 and 1923 please? Sounds like closest info but my aunt and her sister were born 1923 and 1924 and they never lived with there mother, not sure why??

[Ladyhawk]

my aunties birth certificate were for "Alice Schofield, late Lane, formerly Briggs"

Not sure if there is any connection here

There’s this marriage entry Briggs/Lane but it's in Kent and I can't see a death of Reginald Lane between 1914 - 1919, other than a Reginald A Lane age 31 in Jun 1914  Yeovil Somerset on FreeBMD

Jun 1914 Elham vol 2a page 2505
Alice BRIGGS to Reginald LANE

for info.

I think Thomas died

1905 Nantwich

Thomas P BRIGGS age 48

And Eliza remarried

1906 Aston
John Richard Rees

There is a public tree on Ancestry for Thomas Palfreyman Briggs nothing more on Alice Briggs born c 1886 Colwick other than censuses 1891/1901

There is a picture of her sister Miriam Parry nee Briggs with her husband & dau

and birth entry for another sister Dorothy born 1902 Crewe Cheshire and remarriage entry for mother Eliza

[susan57]

Thanks Ladyhawk, the Briggs/Lane marriage is a possibility. Will bear it in mind

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks Ladyhawk, the Briggs/Lane marriage is a possibility. Will bear it in mind

I did a quick check on FreeBMD to see if there were any children born after 1914 - 1919
surname Lane mmn Briggs but couldn't see any in Elham - the only ones I could find were

1916 Oxford Gladys R Lane

1918 Leeds Alice Lane

Have you found Alice on 1911 census ?

[dawnsh]

Hi Susan

I used www.freebmd.org.uk to find a marriage of John W Schofield to an Alice in 1919

and got this

June 1919
Lane, Alice, sp Schofield, Leeds, 9b   872
Schofield, John W, sp Lane, Leeds, 9b, 872

and then used freebmd again to do a birth search from 1919 where the surname is Schofield and the mother's maiden name is Lane

There are 3 results in Leeds but this may be wrong as you said Alice's maiden surname is Briggs

so you need to do a birth search whre the surname is Schofield and the mothers maiden surname is Briggs

You have a certificate so you know which entry is correct.

It's not possible to know if the thers are correct without buying more certificates.

[Ladyhawk]

my aunt and her sister were born 1923 and 1924 and they never lived with there mother,
not sure why??

I used www.freebmd.org.uk to find a marriage of John W Schofield to an Alice in 1919

and got this

June 1919
Lane, Alice, sp Schofield, Leeds, 9b   872
Schofield, John W, sp Lane, Leeds, 9b, 872

and then used freebmd again to do a birth search from 1919 where the surname is Schofield and the mother's maiden name is Lane

There are 3 results in Leeds but this may be wrong as you said Alice's maiden surname is Briggs

so you need to do a birth search whre the surname is Schofield and the mothers maiden surname is Briggs

You have a certificate so you know which entry is correct.

It's not possible to know if the thers are correct without buying more certificates.

Hi Susan

If the two Schofield/Briggs births on FreeBMD Leeds 1923/1924 are your Aunt & her sister

Alice Briggs born 1886 Colwick her parents Thomas Palfreyman Briggs & Eliza have a daughter with the same first name as the 1924 Leeds birth entry - again may just be a coincidence