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Deaths of William Millar & Agnes Millar nee Williamson
« on: Saturday 02 July 16 17:18 BST (UK) »
I am looking for the deaths of  William & Agnes Millar. I have the following info.

Agnes Williamson age 20 married William Millar age 20 on the 31st Dec 1867 in Lochwinnoch (registered 1868).
According to the Kilbirnie 1861 census she and her Parents were born in Ireland and her siblings, Jane, Robert, John & Margaret were born in Kilbirnie.
The Parents of Agnes were Robert Williamson & Elizabeth Carmichael. Williams were Robert Millar & Margaret Millar nee Reid, (though I am sure? her full name was Margaret Reid Cunningham).
Agnes & William on the 1871 census were living in Glasgow along with their 2 children, Robert age 2 & Christina Jamieson age 3 months. Robert died in May 1871 age 2 yrs 6 months & Christina died in July 1871 age 6 Months.
I have Williams Parents, Robert & Margaret with their children living in Glasgow in the 1861 census less William as he is in Lochwinnoch 1861 census age 13 living with his Grandmother Christina Jamieson.
The names are very common in the area but I am sure what I have found so far is correct, but would like to find the deaths of William & Agnes which would help me complete this part of my research.
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There is no trace of William & Agnes after the death of daughter Christina in July 1871.
This post is the result of years of searching for the first marriage of my great grandfather b 1848 d 1898 Pensacola. He was a widower when he remarried in Jan 1877. Legend says that his 1st wife was Mary McGhie, but I can find no trace of either a marriage or a death of Mary Between 1864 & 1876. to confuse matters his son James b 1889 by the 2nd marriage has the correct Mothers name ( McKenzie) on his b cert, but on his marriage cert in 1928 he puts his Mother as Mary McGhie. After all this research I found all the info as on my post and coming to the possibilities that he may have abandoned his 1st wife and ran away to sea.

Help would be appreciated


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Re: Deaths of William Millar & Agnes Millar nee Williamson
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 July 16 00:46 BST (UK) »
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but would like to find the deaths of William & Agnes

You need to narrow down the search years

What is the last census entry you have William & Agnes on?
What year was William born and where was he born?
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Re: Deaths of William Millar & Agnes Millar nee Williamson
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 July 16 02:33 BST (UK) »
For reference, the William MILLAR you have who is in 1871 Census  - isn't he the one in Eastwood, Renfrewshire (not Glasgow) ? A Railway Porter, age 23,  at 13 Shawhill St with Wife Agnes 24, children Robert 2 and Christina 6mths? All listed as born Kilbirnie?

So I wondered…. :)
This topic is about a couple whose deaths are unknown  and 2 children who died as children ….is the question about an indirect ancestor - or -  is it about a direct ancestor, in which case there should be more children than the two who died?

And came across these topics from 2012 and 2011
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=573269.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=570624.54

William Miller

b 1848 Lochwinnoch Renfrewshire , d 1898
m2 1877, for the 2nd time in January 1877 in Glasgow, to Mary McKenzie

Family legend:  1st wife (name unknown) and children were all killed in a house fire.
A Chief Engineer
Last address 1898 (from Shipping agent), was Sunderland
Died in August 1898 Pensacola Harbour
Wife2 and 2 daughters, moved from Glasgow to Stranton, West Hartlepool after Sep 1886
Son James born Stranton, West Hartlepool Jan 1889
Wife and children moved back to Lochwinnoch after his death. They're found there in 1901

Rootschatter Diddy contributed to the 2012 topic, said: :
parents of yours (William, were) Robert & Mary Reid Cunningham (bap  27/2/1848). You corrected this by saying mother forname was Margaret, not Mary.

The 2011 Topic was about son William, born Feb 1878 in Glasgow.

A lot can happen in research between 2011/12 and 2016 - but can you clarify or correct: is the William who married in 1877, the man who died in 1898 and the man who married first in 1867 to Agnes Williamson?

I presume you have the 1867 and 1877 Marriage certificates with parents names on them etc, and state William to be a widower in 1877?

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Deaths of William Millar & Agnes Millar nee Williamson
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 July 16 02:39 BST (UK) »
The William MILLER who died 1898 in Pensacola, (Florida USA)
Drowned in the harbour, 20 Aug 1898 , age 50.
Chief Engineer on the SS Cape Corrientes
FINDA GRAVE with headstone image:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=37961696

And a Biography here, on the site for the Pensacola St John's Cemetery he is buried in:
http://stjohnsdb.com/Miller_William_6008/

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Deaths of William Millar & Agnes Millar nee Williamson
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 July 16 17:47 BST (UK) »
Per pm - post modified to show that 1871 census is last one showing them
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