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Penwortham Address location help required 1851 Census
« on: Monday 11 July 16 13:28 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
I'm researching my Chadwick ancestors and found the family on the 1851 Census living at 65 Gillow Fold, Penwortham, Lancs. What's puzzling is that I can't find any other reference to Gillow Fold!.. On modern maps there is a Giller Fold in Penwortham. I was wondering if anyone could please search the adjacent streets on the 1851 Census to see if Gillow and Giller are possibly one of the same?..

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John
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Re: Penwortham Address location help required 1851 Census
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 July 16 13:37 BST (UK) »
They did change the old names for some reason
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
Avies ~   Norwich

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Re: Penwortham Address location help required 1851 Census
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 July 16 13:42 BST (UK) »
To search the 1851 cenus entry we need the census reference or at least the name of the person.
Giller Fold is shown on this map http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=17&lat=53.7366&lon=-2.7048&layers=171&right=BingHyb

It is Giller Fold on the 1848-1849 map and all the subsequent ones
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Re: Penwortham Address location help required 1851 Census
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 July 16 13:46 BST (UK) »
Giller Fold on the 1848-1849 map has no surrounding streets. Are you sure 65 is not the schedule number?

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Re: Penwortham Address location help required 1851 Census
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 July 16 13:51 BST (UK) »
Image 1 of the area gives the Enumeration District - Shaw Bridge is mentioned, then Gillow Fold to  Charnock Moss, and terminates at the Hutton boundary. 

As Stan has pointed out, 65 is the schedule number for the Chadwick family.

HO 107 2264 folio 175 page 17

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Re: Penwortham Address location help required 1851 Census
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 July 16 14:08 BST (UK) »
Actually I think it is Skew Bridge, which is the bridge over the railway line - B5254.

Gillow/Giller Fold is probably on what is now Giller Drive.
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
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Re: Penwortham Address location help required 1851 Census
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 July 16 16:39 BST (UK) »
Quote from: BumbleB on Monday 11 July 16 14:08 BST (UK)
Actually I think it is Skew Bridge, which is the bridge over the railway line - B5254.

Gillow/Giller Fold is probably on what is now Giller Drive.

You can see Skew Bridge on the map at  http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=17&lat=53.7366&lon=-2.7048&layers=171&right=BingHyb and Gillier Fold is still there, in the same position, on the aerial view.

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Re: Penwortham Address location help required 1851 Census
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 July 16 16:55 BST (UK) »
There were still mistakes being made in the name.

From the Lancashire Evening Post - Thursday 13 December 1934
KIRKHAM. - On the 11th inst., at the residence of his daughter (Mrs. Varley, Windy-ridge, Gillow Fold, Skew Bridge, Penwortham), Peter P. Kirkham, the beloved husband of the late Mary Kirkham, in his 73rd year.

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Re: Penwortham Address location help required 1851 Census
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 July 16 17:19 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Sorry about the reference no, the family I'm researching is that of William Chadwick.. Thanks so much for the information so far..

Regards

John
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