Helen Forster or Lockhart born c1853 in Manchester

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I am trying to find out what happened to Helen Forster, born c1853 in Manchester.  She was the daughter of Robert Forster, born c1816 in Scotland, Joiner.  Mother was Elizabeth.

In 1875 in Manchester, she married a Henry Mares Lockhart, born 1852, Draper, son of Robert Lockhart.  Both give their addresses as Northenden Road, Manchester.  One of the witnesses was an Elizabeth Forster.

I believe the Henry Mares Lockhart to by Henry Myers Lockhart, my GG Uncle, born 1853 at Gatehouse of Fleet, son of Robert Lockhart.

On 14 June 1880, Henry Myers Lockhart joined the Army at the 11 Brigade Depot, Lancaster, and states he is single.

In the 1881 Census he is on a ship and again states he is single.

In 1891, he is back at Gatehouse of Fleet, Kirkcudbrightshire, living with his brother in law and states he is a widower.

In 1901 he is in Ayrshire, and has a wife Margaret, however I cannot find a marriage for him.

At present, I am unable to trace Helen and wonder if she is Ellenor Forster, born c1853, daughter of Robert Forster.  I cannot find an Ellenor Lockhart.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Tom

[CaroleW]

1881 census shows Helen Lockherd 27 b Manchester married occ nurse  plus 4yr old son Robert b Liverpool - living at Gorton   RG11 Piece 3902 Folio 75 Page 28

Births June qtr 1876 
Robert Lockhart      West Derby    8b   366

Baptisms

Robert Forster Lockhart born 17. 4 1876 Apr
Baptism 19.6.1876 at    Liverpool, St Peter
Father Henry Myers Lockhart occ commercial traveller
Mother    Helen Lockhart

[LisaRobinson87]

In 1881 and 1882 Helen and son Robert are in the workhouse so possibly he's left them to find work or deserted them?

[LisaRobinson87]

In 1901 i think Robert Jnr is living with a Aunt Catherine L Leech Widowed  born Scotland who is running a Inn or Hotel in Manchester

[LisaRobinson87]

I think Helen may also have had another child in 1873 as in 1911 Robert is possibly living with a sister who's name is Winifred Murray widowed has two children. Winifred appears on earlier censuses with Catherine Leech and husband and then on another census with a Mary Forster and she is down as Niece, Winifred has place of birth as Westmorland

[CaroleW]

In 1891 Winifred is shown as Lockart

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Thanks Carole and Lisa for all your help.

Tom

[CaroleW]

Winifred was married to a Robert Murray occ sawyer.  Daughter Thora was baptised 2.4.1911 @ Christ Church Pendlebury.  Address 18 Maurice St Pendlebury

Rather strange when you look at Robert Lockhart's occupation and address in 1911

[LisaRobinson87]

Winifred was a Elizabeth Winifred Forster she was baptised

First name(s)   Elizabeth Winifred
Last name   Forster
Baptism year   1873
Baptism date   09 Apr 1873
Place   Milnthorpe
County   Westmorland
Country   England
Mother's first name(s)   Helen
Mother's last name   Forster