Author Topic: Percy McDonald - date of birth  (Read 4213 times)

Offline Markly Darkly

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 106
    • View Profile
Percy McDonald - date of birth
« on: Sunday 24 July 16 20:56 BST (UK) »
Hello. I am trying to prove a date of birth and wonder if there are any military records surviving that might have it. Long shot I know but worth a try?

The details of the soldier are:

Percy McDonald
Service No: G/37134
Private
Queens (Royal West Surrey) Regiment
1st Battalion
Killed in action 23rd April 1917
Born: Stepney
Enlisted: Wandsworth

As I say I wonder if their are any military records surviving that will quote his date of birth?

Thank you

Offline ScouseBoy

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,142
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Percy McDonald - date of birth
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 July 16 20:58 BST (UK) »
Try his record on  www.cwgc.org
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
Avies ~   Norwich

Offline Markly Darkly

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 106
    • View Profile
Re: Percy McDonald - date of birth
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 July 16 21:18 BST (UK) »
Try his record on  www.cwgc.org

Don't think that gives date of birth though??

Edit - just checked, no it doesn't 😕

Offline km1971

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,343
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Percy McDonald - date of birth
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 July 16 11:45 BST (UK) »
Army records do not normally give DoBs. They record age on enlistment/discharge in years and months. occasionally you can work out DoB from when they stopped being 'under age' on their 18th birthday; or received a deferred pension at age of 50.

Ken


Offline Markly Darkly

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 106
    • View Profile
Re: Percy McDonald - date of birth
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 July 16 12:19 BST (UK) »
Army records do not normally give DoBs. They record age on enlistment/discharge in years and months. occasionally you can work out DoB from when they stopped being 'under age' on their 18th birthday; or received a deferred pension at age of 50.

Ken

Thank you Ken. Age in years and months would be helpful i guess, if I know date that was recorded. Anyone out there could have look for me ???

Online jim1

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,532
  • ain't life grand
    • View Profile
Re: Percy McDonald - date of birth
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 July 16 12:28 BST (UK) »
According to the Gratuity list he left a widow Matilda Alice McDonald + 1 child.
You can get a general birth date from his marriage cert.
Dec. 1913
St.Geo.H.Sq.  1a 984
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Offline Markly Darkly

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 106
    • View Profile
Re: Percy McDonald - date of birth
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 July 16 12:50 BST (UK) »
According to the Gratuity list he left a widow Matilda Alice McDonald + 1 child.
You can get a general birth date from his marriage cert.
Dec. 1913
St.Geo.H.Sq.  1a 984

Thank you. However, I do have that marriage certificate. Indeed, I also have a birth certificate and 1891 census record for a Percy McDonald (actually he is born as Percy Vernon but that is another story !!!). What I am trying to prove is that the Percy McDonald/Vernon for whom I have the birth certificate is the same one as the Percy McDonald who died on 23/4/17 in WW1. The one I have the WW1 info is 100% my relative, but not totally sure the birth certificate one is YET :)

Thank you

Offline cath151

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,817
    • View Profile
Re: Percy McDonald - date of birth
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 July 16 13:08 BST (UK) »
There is this, not downloadable unfortunately,

 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=percy+mcdonald+surrey

I m not sure what details the record might include, possibly a birth date?
Cathy
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

Census InformationCrown Copyright from www.national archives.gov.uk

Offline Ladyhawk

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,569
    • View Profile
Re: Percy McDonald - date of birth
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 July 16 13:18 BST (UK) »
According to the Gratuity list he left a widow Matilda Alice McDonald + 1 child.


Not that this helps with Percy's dob but their daughter
Vera Jean McDonald was baptized Holy Trinity, Vauxhall Bridge Road on 17 Feb. 1918
and born on 14th Oct. 1914
father Percy occ Accountant, mother Matilda Alice
abode 109 Cavendish Road Clapham Park

ADDED


If you search 1939 Register using her name & dob you will see she is living in Royal Tunbridge Wells Kent, you will need credits to view further details

she married 1940 and died 1996 Lambeth Vera Jean BIGGS   born   14 Oct. 1914




Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk