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Re: William Henshaw of Stockport (1805-1854)
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 31 January 21 10:49 GMT (UK) »
University of Leicester Special Collections On-line - History Gazeteer & Directory of Cheshire 1850

Wheelwrights - image 312 - Thomas Henshaw, 58 Wellington Road North.

http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/304287/rec/2
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Re: William Henshaw of Stockport (1805-1854)
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 31 January 21 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello there,

The Lurry Works were located on Wellington Road North, Heaton Norris.
In the 1841 census, Thomas Henshaw and his brother William appear to be living next door or very close to each other at Wellington Road North.

This 1841 census comes from Ancestry.
At the top of the image page it states "Borough of Stockport. Township of Heaton Norris." -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/LANHO107_581_582-0598?pId=6240605

The enumerator's schedule from image p.1 of that census states that it was in the county of "Lancaster (Lancashire)." -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8978/images/LANHO107_581_582-0588?pId=6240605

William and Thomas are also listed at Wellington Road North on p.149 of Pigot & Slater's Directory from 1841. -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/3145/images/0000cayz?pId=37868194

My 3x great grandmother Maria was baptised (surname written down as "Henshall" on the register) on the 25th of May 1845, at Tiviot Dale, Wesleyan Chapel. It gives her birth date on the baptism as the 27th of March 1845, and her abode as "Wellington Road North." -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/3758/images/41501_605905_0657-00022?pId=318111

It gives her surname as Henshaw on the GRO index, and later census and other records. -

HENSHAW, MARIA     Mother's Maiden Surname: GRIFFITHS    GRO Reference: 1845  J Quarter in STOCKPORT  Volume 19  Page 257

Fast forward to the next census in 1851, and William and Thomas Henshaw were still living at Wellington Road North.
William Henshaw was living at number 56. His brother Thomas was living at number 58. -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/CHSHO107_2155_2155-0440?pId=12697989

The "Description of Enumeration District" from image p.1 of that census states:

"All that part of the Heaton Norris Ward in the township of Heaton Norris in the borough of Stockport which is comprised in the following boundary....."

Under "County and Parliamentary Division" it again says "Lancaster (Lancashire)." -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/CHSHO107_2155_2155-0405?pId=12697989

William died in 1854. I think he died at the home of his brother Thomas, because the burial register gives his abode as 58, Wellington Road North. -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2963/images/40364_633870_2778-00078?pId=1637612

His wife Elizabeth (nee Griffiths) was buried on the 27th of September 1859, and it does give her abode at burial on the register as 56, Wellington Road North. -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2963/images/40364_633870_2771-00043?pId=1090987

His son James Henshaw (1839 - 1895) had taken over the business. At sometime before the 1871 census, the Lurry Works had moved to 68, Wellington Road North. -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7619/images/LANRG10_3656_3658-0052?pId=9722117

James Henshaw died at 68, Wellington Road North, on the 23rd of December 1895.

The Lurry Works kept the name of "James Henshaw" even after James died. I have two photocopied advertisements which bear his name, one from 1899 and one from 1905, both from newspapers. Both state it was established in 1836.
There is a photograph here from the Stockport Image Archive titled Premises of James Henshaw, Wellington Road North. -

http://old.stockport.gov.uk/sia/?accessionno=30074&picResultsNo=15#picInfo

There is also this description from a newspaper:

"James Henshaw, builder of tradesman's vehicles, etc, of the Stockport Lurry, Cart, and Van Works, Wellington Road North, has been established since 1836, and he is noted for his first class work...." -

Manchester Courier & Lancashire General Advertiser, Friday 3rd of September 1909.

William Charles Henshaw (1865 - 1940), son of James, took over the business of his father.
In the 1911 census, he was at 68, Wellington Road North. -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2352/images/rg14_21409_0063_03?pId=5177732

He was still at this address when the 1939 Register was taken. -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/61596/images/tna_r39_3948_3948c_026?pId=24010654



So the Stockport Lurry Works were certainly on Wellington Road North, and not Wellington Road South.

Unfortunately this information here about it being on Wellington Road South, is wrong. -

http://www.cheadlehulme.net/village/chhenshaw.html

But the following is what I get a little confused about:

When did this area become part of the county of Cheshire, and not part of the county of Lancashire?
If anyone can view these links on Ancestry, the 1911 Census for 68, Wellington Road North, gives the address at the top (in Ancestry's data description at least) as Stockport, Cheshire .Or have I got this wrong did it not at all?

Thank you.  :) ;)





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Re: William Henshaw of Stockport (1805-1854)
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 31 January 21 11:22 GMT (UK) »
University of Leicester Special Collections On-line - History Gazeteer & Directory of Cheshire 1850

Wheelwrights - image 312 - Thomas Henshaw, 58 Wellington Road North.

http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/304287/rec/2

Thank you.  :)

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Re: William Henshaw of Stockport (1805-1854)
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 31 January 21 12:26 GMT (UK) »
William Henshaw lived at 56, Wellington Road North, while his brother Thomas (my great great grandfather) lived next door at 58, Wellington Road North. The Stockport Lurry Works was located next door to a timber yard on Wellington Road North between Church Road and Wyatt Street, just north of a pub, the Railway Hotel that is still standing.

William is buried in Christchurch Cemetery, where I found his grave, and that of his daughter Maria. Also found was the grave of James Henshaw and his wife Sarah.

Best wishes,

Colin. 


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Re: William Henshaw of Stockport (1805-1854)
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 31 January 21 12:58 GMT (UK) »
Kay Brown's identification of the Stockport Lurry Company on Wellington Road South is definitely wrong.

http://www.cheadlehulme.net/village/chhenshaw.html

Colin.

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Re: William Henshaw of Stockport (1805-1854)
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 31 January 21 13:17 GMT (UK) »
When did this become part of the county of Cheshire? - a simple question to ask - I once worked this out but I’ve forgotten the exact answer!

I think the simple answer is that it never has. The historic boundary between Lancashire and Cheshire is the River Mersey, upstream as far as the River Tame and then along that river (there is some didpute as to where the Mersey starts but that’s for another time).

As the area north of the river began to urbanise, the area became part of the Heatons Norris Council and later subsumed into Stockport Borough Council. Stockport always referred to itself as being in Cheshire but after taking over the Heatons area, part of it was within Lancashire. It continued to remain “within” Cheshire until it became a Metropolitan Borough, as part of Greater Manchester,  between 1974 and 1986.

As I said, I’ve forgotten the exact dates; I must work it out again! The other thing which causes confusion is St Thomas’ church. There is the one you refer to here and a much earlier one (much altered) on the A6 in Heaton Chapel.

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Re: William Henshaw of Stockport (1805-1854)
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 31 January 21 13:39 GMT (UK) »
That's more or less the situation - there's a detailed Wikipedia article here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaton_Norris - which outlines the chronology; I'm assuming its right!

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Re: William Henshaw of Stockport (1805-1854)
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 31 January 21 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I confirm that. Heaton Norris was transferred to Stockport in 1835. Traditionally, the boundary between Lancashire and Cheshire was the River Mersey, which was a boundary extending back into Saxon times, between the kingdoms of Northumbria and Mercia, (though it did fluctuate) and possibly between pre-Roman conquest Celtic kingdoms. The source of the Mersey is the confluence between the River Tame and the River Goyt, underneath the M60.

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Re: William Henshaw of Stockport (1805-1854)
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 31 January 21 15:14 GMT (UK) »
When did this become part of the county of Cheshire? - a simple question to ask - I once worked this out but I’ve forgotten the exact answer!

Stockport always referred to itself as being in Cheshire but after taking over the Heatons area, part of it was within Lancashire.

Yes this part does confuse me (not coming from the area myself), when on Ancestry you see some people who have put people in family trees birth places down as "Heaton Norris, Lancashire," and others have it as "Heaton Norris, Cheshire."    Thank you. :) ;)