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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #99 on: Friday 03 May 24 21:44 BST (UK) »
This would probably answer the Jane Hood 1803 burial query

dates fit

John Hood X Jane Newby marriage 3rd Nov 1793 Scalby - Scarborough

Jane Hood wife of John Hood buried Selby 1803

(Maybe Chester is a step brother to George ???) Chester Newby on George Hood of Selby marriage Bond allegation 1815 as his bondsman

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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #100 on: Saturday 04 May 24 09:03 BST (UK) »
This would probably answer the Jane Hood 1803 burial query

dates fit

John Hood X Jane Newby marriage 3rd Nov 1793 Scalby - Scarborough

Jane Hood wife of John Hood buried Selby 1803

(Maybe Chester is a step brother to George ???) Chester Newby on George Hood of Selby marriage Bond allegation 1815 as his bondsman

Thank you, but we have looked at this before.

Summarised from an old post ...

Regarding the 1793 John Hood = Jane Newby marriage, it looks like these were their entries in the following Census?

1841 Cloughton
John Hood aged 70 Farmer
Janie Hood aged 70
etc.

1851 Census Cloughton Newlands
John Hood Head, Mar, 80 Freeholder Farmer of 40 Acres, born Yorkshire Stainton Dale
Jane Hood Wife, Mar, 82, born Yorkshire Scalby
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Regarding Jane Hood, Wife of John Hood of Selby Mariner, buried at Selby, 15th August 1803, Register said she was 65 years and no descent was stated.

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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #101 on: Saturday 04 May 24 09:51 BST (UK) »
Children of John Hood & Jane baptised at Scalby/Cloughton:-

1794 Rachael Hood
1796 John Hood
1798 George Hood (BT Cloughton)
1807 John Hood (BT Cloughton, 13th December John Son of John & Jane Hood)

So not the elderly Selby, Yorkshire, couple.
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Interesting ...
EYFHS, Scalby M.I., Alice Hood who
died Sep 7th 1794, aged 30 years.

EYFHS have suggested and the Parish Register says

1794
Sep 9 Alice daughter of John & Jane Hood

So if the M.I., are accurate and the headstone correctly carved, Alice was 30 years and not the child of the above couple, of Scalby / Cloughton.

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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #102 on: Saturday 04 May 24 11:27 BST (UK) »
However, if the Scalby M.I., were set out by EYFHS side by side, Alice Hood was buried, next to Jane wife of John Hood who died Nov 26, 1855 86yrs.
[In the reply above]

EYFHS add 1855 Nov 30 Jane Hood, Cloughton, 86

EYFHS have not used one adjacent to Alice Hood, but the next is:-
Thomas Leadlay Oct 27th 1826 aged 75. Also John Son of the Above who died March ... ed 73. [Possibly aged 73?]

EYFHS have suggested from PR 1849 Apr 4, James? Leadley, Cloughton, 73.

But John Leadlay could of been family buried elsewhere?

Next is
Elizabeth Wife of John Leadlay Novr 9th 1809 aged 34 years.
Also Isabella Wife of the above who died June ---- 1840 ----- unreadable

EYFHS
PR 1809 Nov 12 Elizabeth Wife of John Leadley, Jun'r.
PR 1840 Jun 16, Isabella Leadley, 54

Next is
Mary Ann the daughter of Henry and Margaret Leadley who died 6th November 1795 aged 9 years [ remaining lines unreadable]
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EYFHS add from the Cloughton PR
1795 Nov 5 Mary Ann Daughter of Henry & Margaret Leadley, Harwood Dale.


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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #103 on: Saturday 04 May 24 11:35 BST (UK) »
Next two numbers (EYFHS M.I., numbers) but not adacent (next but one row away, if headstones are set out by EYFHS side by side) , ----- Wife of Thomas Craven.

EYFHS suggest 1776 Nov 1, Sarah wife of Thomas Craven.

Next to the Wife of Thomas Craven -
William Craven died 20th March 180( 8 ) aged 40.

[I wondered if William was possibly the Son of Thomas & Sarah Craven? But no proof]

Some research we did suggested that the Sarah Craven burial might be Sarah Hood.

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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #104 on: Sunday 05 May 24 02:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark,

You have  posted a lot of research over a few years - so duplicating is likely by other members
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another scenario

 Jane Hood who died 1803 Selby makes me wonder ? if she was a Quaker originally (Quaker marriage) but she buried C of E ( husband John Hood's religion ? possible mother of George )

We thought George being buried in  Selby Quaker burial ground as a none practicing member of the Quakers, left us thinking it was his Quaker daughter in law's influence ? - but Jane Hood died 1803 wife of John Hood marine could have been the quaker connection originally. (Iffy suggestion but  ??? so was George's burial place at first.)
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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #105 on: Monday 06 May 24 19:18 BST (UK) »
Jane Hood Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, 65 years.

Jane Hood is another mystery! The Selby Dade Register has no descent.

No Headstone, nothing in the newspaper, no Yorkshire Will.
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Been considering the following (nothing set in stone though).

Maudland Hood's lineage was given, when Charles & Maudland Turner's 1st daughter was born/ bapt at Selby, Yorkshire in 1795

1756
John Leppington married Elizabeth Spencer at Scarborough.
Present (as wits) were:- John Smith and Mary Spencer (both signed)

1763
The Licence confirms Elizabeth Leppington of Scarborough 26 years was a Widow when she married John Hood of Scarborough, Mariner and John Jefferson of the same place, Mariner, was their Bondsman.
Present (as wits) at their Marriage were John Cornforth ; John Jefferson

Added: This would give Elizabeth Spencer, an approximate birth of 1736-1737.

Maudland Hood, Descent
According to the 1795 Birth of Elizabeth Turner, 1st daughter of Charles and Maudland Turner at Selby, the Descent column says:-
"Morland Dau'r of John Hood of Selby Mariner by Elizabeth his Wife Dau'r of John Spencer of Scarbro' Mariner."

Elizabeth Hood [John Hood's Wife] appears to have been buried at Scarborough shortly after the birth of Maudland Hood at Scarborough.

Suggestion only for John Spencer's Wife
If Mary Spencer, the witness at Elizabeth Spencer's first Marriage to John Leppington in 1756, was John Spencer's Wife (nothing to prove Mary Spencer was John Spencer's wife) ...

Then a possible marriage (nothing to prove this either) and also Mother for Elizabeth Spencer might be:-

1717 Scarborough
12th Sept Jno Spencer & Mary Barton.
Incidentally same day, so might be related, a dual marriage.
12th Sept Tho: Shepherd & Fortune Spencer.

Possible Quaker link if it could be proven -
Now if this could be proved true and Mary Barton was of the Barton family of Scarborough, that would mean the Grandmother of Maudland Turner (nee Hood) was almost certainly from a family with Quaker family links.

1753 Malton Monthly Quaker Meeting
Jeremiah Barton Son of William Barton late of Scarborough deceased ...
Married
Elizabeth Ruston daughter of Thomas Ruston late of Scarborough also deceased.
Relations
Mary Ruston
Barbara Ruston
Robert Ruston
Joshua Reeve
Sarah Gott
Jemima Reeve
Ann Saul

Other attendees at the marriage are named
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Discussed before, the son of John Hood of Scarborough buried at Old Malton.

1781 Old Malton
James Son of John Hood of Scarbro'
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Court of Chancery
   
Short title: Betson v Noble.

Document type: Depositions.

Plaintiffs: Thomas Barton and Mary Barton, infants (by George Marshall).

Defendants: Matthew Noble, Mark Noble and Richard Peacock (executors of Gawen Noble, deceased) and others.

Depositions taken at Scarborough, Yorkshire.

Date of bill (or first document): 1724.


Comment
Now if these Barton children in the Court case were linked to the above Barton family of Scarborough and of Malton by 1753 (some of whom were Quakers) and if the catalogue description is a good summary, it would appear to link two Barton children with a Marshall? Or he had been appointed to represent / Tutor (case not seen).

If so, this might explain why Mary Ann Prince [Daughter of James Prince of Scarborough, later of Selby] was present also as a witness at 1794 Selby marriage of Charles Turner & Maudland Hood, because James Prince married Grace Marshall at Scarborough.
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We have proven (by signature comparison) the Stears signature at the 1794 Charles Turner = Maudland Hood, marriage was a Quaker.

Mark

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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #106 on: Monday 06 May 24 22:14 BST (UK) »
1781 Old Malton
James son of John Hood of Scarbro'

Has James's burial place been checked for an Headstone or MI records in Old Malton  C of E ( or Quaker) burial ground.
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Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« Reply #107 on: Wednesday 08 May 24 04:08 BST (UK) »
Jane Hood Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, 65 years.


Possible Quaker link if it could be proven -
Now if this could be proved true and Mary Barton was of the Barton family of Scarborough, that would mean the Grandmother of Maudland Turner (nee Hood) was almost certainly from a family with Quaker family links.

1753 Malton Monthly Quaker Meeting
Jeremiah Barton Son of William Barton late of Scarborough deceased ...
Married
Elizabeth Ruston daughter of Thomas Ruston late of Scarborough also deceased.
Relations
Mary Ruston
Barbara Ruston
Robert Ruston
Joshua Reeve
Sarah Gott
Jemima Reeve
Ann Saul

Other attendees at the marriage are named
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Discussed before, the son of John Hood of Scarborough buried at Old Malton.

1781 Old Malton
James Son of John Hood of Scarbro'

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Court of Chancery
   
Short title: Betson v Noble.

Document type: Depositions.

Plaintiffs: Thomas Barton and Mary Barton, infants (by George Marshall).

Defendants: Matthew Noble, Mark Noble and Richard Peacock (executors of Gawen Noble, deceased) and others.

Depositions taken at Scarborough, Yorkshire.

Date of bill (or first document): 1724.


Comment
Now if these Barton children in the Court case were linked to the above Barton family of Scarborough and of Malton by 1753 (some of whom were Quakers) and if the catalogue description is a good summary, it would appear to link two Barton children with a Marshall? Or he had been appointed to represent / Tutor (case not seen).

If so, this might explain why Mary Ann Prince [Daughter of James Prince of Scarborough, later of Selby] was present also as a witness at 1794 Selby marriage of Charles Turner & Maudland Hood, because James Prince married Grace Marshall at Scarborough.
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We have proven (by signature comparison) the Stears signature at the 1794 Charles Turner = Maudland Hood, marriage was a Quaker.

Mark

Hi Mark

(I'll leave it now with this !! )

Picture forming - dates realistically fit after death of Elizabeth Hood (Spencer-Leppington ) 1775 to baptism of James Hood son of John mariner. 1781 Old Malton (George Hood birth approx 1786)
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Fact:

Jane Hood Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, 65 years burial Selby 1803   (but no other info on her ?)
 (WHY )




Scenario :

A Quaker marriage between 1775 to (Baptism of James Hood Old Malton 1781) 1781 of Jane ???? (burial wife of John Hood 1803 Selby) x John Hood ....................?

Fact:

1781 Old Malton
James Son of John Hood of Scarbro'


(George Hood born 1786 approx from his death age 60 in 1846 Selby)



and

Fact:

Some of George's children had Quaker wives. ?

Fact :

George Hood burial 1846 aged 60 none practicing Quaker but buried in Quaker burial ground Selby
   (WHY )

Dave
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