Author Topic: Westgate Hill Cemetery HOOD September 1845 Tyne & Wear Archive lookup please?  (Read 1361 times)

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Brief Summary Background to My Question
There is a fairly strong suggestion that my 4 x Gt. Grandfather George Hood, who first appears in the 1812 Selby Land Tax and married Selby in July 1815, aged 28 (and in business, initially as a Cooper, but later as a Retail Brewer c.1825/6 and also having a Tannery c.1830), dying Selby 18th September 1845, aged 60, was likely the Geo: S of John Hood Baptised Gateshead St Mary's 1st October 1786.

George Hood's 1846 Probate, confirming him to be a Brewer and Tanner (both the Will Register copy entry and the Will Bundle) is of no help regarding his burial place.

We visited Yorkshire (Borthwick and Beverley Archives) twice, applied for various document copies to no avail, plus staying over and checking numerous 1845 Yorkshire Burial Parish Registers on film and microfiche, surrounding Selby and other possible places, where others who just had the Hood surname lived.

George Hood has no known sideways relations, no local/Selby baptism and no apparent burial in Yorkshire (checked so far). He was not Staff Sgt George Hood of Leeds, buried Leeds earlier the same month.

A Rootschatter put forward a theory, that the Cooper business at Selby that George Hood took over, of Cooper Richard Gibson might be related, i.e. George's Uncle and other Rootschatters added pieces, which produced the following (see image).

I am wondering ... perhaps the reason for not being able to locate George Hood's September 1845 burial attempts in Yorkshire, was because George Hood's body has gone back to his birthplace area for burial?

Question
T & W Archives, is some distance from Warwickshire, just to see if George Hood might be listed or not in a Register and they were not prepared just to do a check from my polite email request, regarding Westgate Hill General Cemetery, Newcastle.

I wondered please, if someone might be visiting Tyne and Wear Archives and could try for just George Hood's Sept 1845 burial first and provide Index and Register details, if buried there?

Tyne and Wear Archives, Cat Reference via TNA
The Tyne & Wear Archives Link to their doc reference numbers (from 1829 to 1957) now seems to have gone AWOL from TNA link (since I enquired) ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/N13630970

I kept the following notes re Registers covering 1845 ...

Tyne and Wear Archives, Burial Registers CE.WGH/1 and Dx446 Register of Share Transfers.

Alphabetical Index CE.WGH/1/1 Index 1829 to 1846.
Burial Registers CE.WGH/2/1 [covering 1845]

Purchased Vaults CE.WGH/3 1829 to 1923. [Just in case George Hood is buried there and purchased a vault]

Thank you for any help.

Kind regards, Mark

EDIT: if found, the burial information recorded, plus folio / page number would be fantastic, thank you.

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Re: Westgate Hill Cemetery HOOD September 1845 Tyne & Wear Archive lookup please?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 September 16 20:18 BST (UK) »

The following from British Historical Newspapers online , seems to suggest that he was born 1772 not 1786.


On Thursday, the 18th inst., much deservedly respected by all who knew him, aged 63, Mr. George Hood, of Selby, tanner
Yorkshire Gazette - Saturday 27 September 1845


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Re: Westgate Hill Cemetery HOOD September 1845 Tyne & Wear Archive lookup please?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 September 16 00:06 BST (UK) »

The following from British Historical Newspapers online , seems to suggest that he was born 1772 not 1786.


On Thursday, the 18th inst., much deservedly respected by all who knew him, aged 63, Mr. George Hood, of Selby, tanner
Yorkshire Gazette - Saturday 27 September 1845


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Thanks, I have found newspapers listing that age too.

However, on his 16th May 1815 Marriage Intent / Bond and on his 18th July 1815 Marriage, George Hood gave his age as 28 years.

This would give an age at death on 18th September 1845 of 58 years, or 59 years (59 years, would mean George Hood was in his 60th year).

His Death Certificate (Official Copy) gives 60 years of age.

I am hoping when a Burial place is found, it will give a clue as to his place of origin, or give a definite place to investigate. He has been buried somewhere and was not listed as a Quaker.

Although, no burial place is mentioned for this George Hood, he had the means to choose.
Other Yorkshire Wills and Burial Registers generally indicate that some were taken afar for burial, in and out of County.

If anyone can do any burial lookup of the Registers please, it would be much appreciated? Please post the outcome either way, on this thread.

Thanks, Mark

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Re: Westgate Hill Cemetery HOOD September 1845 Tyne & Wear Archive lookup please?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 September 16 16:48 BST (UK) »
If no one can help


Normally I would not suggest this as its an expensive set price with a find or no find of requested information look up - but in your case much cheaper than train fare and over night accommodation cost, especially when there is a very good chance of a negative result.



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Re: Westgate Hill Cemetery HOOD September 1845 Tyne & Wear Archive lookup please?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 September 16 17:03 BST (UK) »
 Richard Gibson goes back further than 1800  when was a cooper in Selby from 1792 of his marriage to Elianor Wainwright.


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Re: Westgate Hill Cemetery HOOD September 1845 Tyne & Wear Archive lookup please?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 September 16 17:27 BST (UK) »
There are lots of burial grounds in Newcastle upon Tyne.
I wondered why Westgate Hill in particular?
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Re: Westgate Hill Cemetery HOOD September 1845 Tyne & Wear Archive lookup please?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 September 16 09:53 BST (UK) »
Hi JenB, (Mark is not answering at the moment ? )

With 5 missing Hood burials of George Hood family from the marriage to Sarah Russell 1815 Selby, ranging from George's death Selby 1845 and Sarah his wife death Selby 1879, if they had been buried in Anglican or Non-conformist church/chapel burial grounds, being entries in registers, least one burial entry should have show up somewhere over a 30 year period by now.

This leaves cemeteries, where most burial registers are not online, but with George dying as early 1845 - not that many cemeteries where open that early as the year 1845.

Sarah is most likely buried in a cemetery by 1879 and probably buried with George.

Hence reduces the number of cemeteries to search down a lot  ::) but  :( finding where to look  ???

Westgate Hill Cemetery Newcastle seems a good place to start, that opened before 1845, a private cemetery and the type of which one would expect to find family burial plots.   ???
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Re: Westgate Hill Cemetery HOOD September 1845 Tyne & Wear Archive lookup please?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 September 16 08:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks

I've got another generation on my family tree confirmed!! I have become a Grandad to a beautiful Granddaughter !!!

Gateshead 1845
Gateshead 1845 burials are listed on online, I have even tried the Brown surname to check and Gateshead is online covering the 1845 period, but no George Hood burial in September 1845.

Westgate Hill General Cemetery, Opened 1829
Because George could afford to choose, also a fairly strong suggestion that George Hood was from the Newcastle area, then I felt Westgate Hill General Cemetery, a private Cemetery Company, was worth a try, if his body went back to his birthplace area.

There are family vaults there too.

There is an alphabetical index (reference in my first post) for Westgate Hill General Cemetery, so I was wondering please if there was anyone going to T & W Archives, who feel they might have a few minutes spare to order either, the Alphabetical Register or the Burial Register covering 1845, just to have a look to see if old George Hood is there and note the line and folio/page number, if he is.

Mystery of the Six Hood Burials
Of course the 1845 burial place of George Hood, plus four of his adult children, then later his widow Sarah Hood in November 1879 are an absolute mystery. Got their Selby Death Certs, but burials are a complete mystery.

Family myth, is that their burials might be the key to discovering who my Hoods were.

Thank you.

Regards Mark

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Re: Westgate Hill Cemetery HOOD September 1845 Tyne & Wear Archive lookup please?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 September 16 10:09 BST (UK) »
Congratulations with your granddaughter.  :)

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6 missing burials ?
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