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Maria Bland born 1867/68?
« on: Thursday 13 October 16 17:01 BST (UK) »
Hi can anyone find a baptism record for Maria Bland? She married William Henry Rigby at St Peters Church Preston in 1887, which is a c of e church. Williams family seem to be c of e, as all records I have are from St John's church. Maria was my great grandmother, and as far as I know, my grandad and his siblings were all raised as Catholics. I am trying to find when that connection came into the family. Many thanks

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Re: Maria Bland born 1867/68?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 October 16 17:22 BST (UK) »
Marriage gives Maria's father as Joseph Bland.  Where does census give as her place of birth

Josephs occ Churn Maker (decd)
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Re: Maria Bland born 1867/68?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 October 16 17:27 BST (UK) »
Rosie 99, 1891, 1901 and 1911 census all state Preston as her place of birth.

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Re: Maria Bland born 1867/68?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 October 16 17:29 BST (UK) »
1858 marriage Joseph Bland to Margaret Bateson - St John, Preston

1871 and 1881 censuses show Maria with mother and Bateson/Bland siblings.
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Re: Maria Bland born 1867/68?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 October 16 17:45 BST (UK) »
24 Dec 1858
St John, Preston, Lancashire

Joseph Bland age 51, Chair Maker, Widower, abodeSnow Hill
Margaret Bateson age 39,  Servant, Widow, abode Snow Hill
Groom's Father: late Nicholas Bland, Stone Mason
Bride's Father: late Thomas Cooper, Joiner
Witnesses  Joseph Cuerden & Elizabeth Aughton, (X)
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Re: Maria Bland born 1867/68?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 October 16 17:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks Haywood. William and Maria moved to Burnley. Would there be Catholic baptism records online? My grandfather was Joseph Rigby born 1906 Burnley.

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Re: Maria Bland born 1867/68?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 October 16 17:47 BST (UK) »
Margarets first marriage

7 Jun 1843
St Leonard, Walton-le-Dale, Lancashire, England
John Bateson - Full Age, Labourer, Bachelor, Walton le Dale
Margaret Cooper - Full Age, Spinster, Walton le Dale
Groom's Father- John Woods?, occ Tinplate Worker
Bride's Father-Thomas Cooper, occ Joiner
Witnesses John Cook & Mary Sheldon

No indication that Marias mother was not Cof E
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Re: Maria Bland born 1867/68?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 October 16 18:08 BST (UK) »
Hi, mlmcholm,

The replies already posted suggest that Maria Bland born ca 1866/7 was born in Preston.  As all Maria's children were raised as Catholics it is possible that she was a Catholic.

The fact that she and her possible parents were married in Anglican churches is not an argument against her being a Catholic.  At this time the Catholic church accepted that marriages in Anglican churches were sacramentally valid.

As her children were raised a Catholics, it is very likely that they were all baptised as Catholics. There were seven Catholic churches in Preston at that time and, as far as I know, none of the baptismal registers are available on-line, or even as hard copy.  The early registers will have been deposited in Lancashire Archives in Preston.

The Catholic churches in approx order of closeness to St Peter's, are St Walburge, St Mary, St Ignatius, English Martyrs, St Wilfrid, and St Joseph.

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Re: Maria Bland born 1867/68?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 October 16 18:40 BST (UK) »
Sorry can't help with a baptism for Maria Bland  :(

Looking at Lancashire BMD/FreeBMD

I can seen birth entries for her siblings but nothing for Maria Bland  ???

1861
BLAND   Anthony   mmn BATESON   Preston   PRES/124/32
BLAND   Anthony   mmn COOPER       Preston   PRES/124/32
Anthony age 10 is with his father Joseph Bland age 62 occ. Chair maker on 1871c

1863
BLAND   Mary    BATESON   Preston   PRES/137/78
BLAND   Mary    COOPER   Preston   PRES/137/78

1865
BLAND   Elizabeth   BATESON   Preston   PRES/149/35
BLAND   Elizabeth   COOPER   Preston   PRES/149/35
from Lancashire BMD