FULLERTON/CARSON in Ahoghill

[brojohn]

Marriage certificate in 1869, Brisbane, Australia between James Fullerton Luke and Mary Carson gives both birth places as Ahoghill, Antrim.  James' parents are James Luke and Mary Fullerton.  Mary's parents are James Carson and Margaret Fullerton.  Witnesses are James Carson and Matilda Carson, both of whom were also married there later so must have been Mary's siblings.
From their wedding day on, James and Mary had the surname of Fullerton and the name Luke was never used in any form and was unknown to the family.

Any help appreciated

Bron

[aghadowey]

Lots of information already posted for you on another forum-
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=17144&p=localities.britisles.ireland.ant.general

[brojohn]

Thanks, I am aware of that but, like most family history researchers, I don't rely on one research tool

[aghadowey]

Yes, but there's no point in us wasting time searching for details that you've already been given.

From yet another forum was given this information-
Old Churchyard, Ahoghill- Erected by James Luke, Ballylummin, in memory of his father Robert Luke who died 14th March 1858 aged 66 yrs Also his mother Rachel died 12th March 1865 aged 70 yrs Also their grandchildren William Robert Luke died 4th October 1865 aged 2 and a half years and Hugh Luke who died 20th Novr 1891 aged 14 years James Luke died 30th January 1896 aged 58 yrs His son John Luke died 25th January 1897 aged 23 years His wife Matilda Luke died 6th August 1910 aged 69 years His grandson Samuel Agnew died 7th Aug 1910 aged 3 months

So-
Robert Luke (c1792-14 Mar.1866) m. Rachel (c1795-12 Mar.1865)
Letters of Administration of the Personal estate of Robert Luke late of Ballylumin in the County of Antrim Farmer deceased who died 13 March 1858 at same place were granted at Belfast to Rachel Luke of Ballylumin aforesaid the Widow of said deceased.
1. James Luke (c1838-30 Jan.1896), Balylummin, m. Matilda (c1841-9 Aug.1910)
Probate of the Will of Matilda Luke late of Ballylummin County Antrim Widow who died 6 August 1910 granted at Belfast to David Agnew Farmer and Thomas Luke Bread Server.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ahoghill/Ballylummin/923884
     1. William Robert Luke (c1863-4 Oct.1865)
     2. Hugh Luke (c1877-20 Nov.1891)
     3. John Luke (c1874-25 Jan.1897)

Probate of the Will of William Robert Luke late of Ballylummin County Antrim Retired Farmer who died 27 April 1902 granted at Belfast to Edward T. M'Graw Farmer and William Graham Merchant. will mentions possible wife, eldest son named for his grandfather Thomas Duff, other children James, Samuel & William Robert.

PRONI has lots of other Will Extracts- http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx

You should be able to find civil records (births, marriages & deaths) here-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

You can also find more information on above family in census records-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

[aghadowey]

The Will of James Luke late of Ballylummin County Antrim Farmer who died 25 January 1896 was proved at Belfast by Thomas Duff and John Esler both of Ballylummin Farmers the Executors. Will mentions farm known as Joe Luke's to son William Robert, son David in Australia, daughter Rachael in Belfast, daughters Jane & Sarah, 'little son' James, son Alexander, sons John & Tommy.

Might be worth checking if David Luke in Australia had contact with your James Luke in Australia.

Location of Ballylummin townland-
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/toome-lower/ahoghill/ballylummin/

[aghadowey]

Fullertons also in Ballylummin.

Probate of the Will of James Fullerton late of Ballylummin County Antrim Farmer who died 9 April 1901 granted at Belfast to William Fullerton Schoolmaster.
Unfortunately the link takes you to the wrong page.

Could this be the above William Fullerton?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballymena_Town/Thomas_Street/116956

James C. Fullerton & sister Margaret-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ahoghill/Ballylummin/923878
Robert Fullerton & son John-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ahoghill/Ballylummin/923868

[BallyaltikilliganG]

yes its difficult to help you further nevertheless in case you don’t know
 The Tithe Composition Applotment books, to give them their full title covering the six
counties, are best described briefly by their custodian, the Public Record Office of
Northern Ireland (PRONI)
PRONI series Your Family Tree: 23 TITHE RECORDS. you must visit or have someone visit for you
however an index exists see und parish http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/county-antrim-genealogy.php#.V9j002Woc5Q
Luke, Alexander-Townland : Ballylummin Year: 1825-Portglenone-Antrim
Luke, David-Townland : Ballylummin Year: 1825-Portglenone-Antrim
Luke, Robt.-Townland : Ballylummin Year: 1825-Portglenone-Antrim
Luke, Widow Townland : Drumramer Year: 1825--Portglenone-Antrim

there are co antrim Luke  but there are Logh/Lough in the ulster hearth rolls see 1660s excel on http://www.billmacafee.com
12017   776   Antrim   Antrim Upper   Kilbride   Ballyhamage   Ballyhanish   Robt   Logh   Lough
12468   1227   Antrim   Antrim Upper   Doagh Grange   Doagh   [decayed parchment]   Hugh   Logh   Lough
16288   2681   Antrim   Belfast Lower   Templepatrick   Grange of Ballyrobert   Ballyrabeit   John Senior   Lough   Lough
16291   2684   Antrim   Belfast Lower   Templepatrick   Grange of Ballyrobert   Ballyrabeit   John Junior   Lough   Lough

from Griffiths Valuation  wicklow and Donegal are likely sse askaboutireland

1796 http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php
Luke                  Samuel               Derrykeighan       Antrim

you don’t know Morren blair ? who has a contribution within Ros Davies Co Down website
William , Robert and James LUKE   . came over from Ochiltree, Ayrshire, Scotland as part of the Ulster Plantation; they sailed into Bangor about 1610, at Luke's Point; William Luke settled in Bangor, another went to Whiteabbey,another to Larne in Co. Antrim ; later one Luke family moved to Ballylummin, and another to Broughshane both in Co Antrim
 source Moreen Blair see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/L/Lu.htm

with that knowledge it back to bill macafee’s many datasheets
good luck

[aghadowey]

Marriage certificate in 1869, Brisbane, Australia between James Fullerton Luke and Mary Carson gives both birth places as Ahoghill, Antrim.  James' parents are James Luke and Mary Fullerton.  Mary's parents are James Carson and Margaret Fullerton.  Witnesses are James Carson and Matilda Carson, both of whom were also married there later so must have been Mary's siblings.
From their wedding day on, James and Mary had the surname of Fullerton and the name Luke was never used in any form and was unknown to the family.

Queensland- Matthew Carson died 1895 (parents James Carson & Margaret Fullerton)

Ahoghill Old Burying Ground-
https://genealogygirl.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/ahoghillinterments.pdf

[BallyaltikilliganG]

aghadowey just amazing responses
bron have sent you pm in 2 parts to encourage you onwards