Hi all,
I am helping a friend with their family research & have hit the proverbial brick wall! I cannot find anything of the above chap prior to 1881, nor can I find anything at all about his father! Can anyone help?
Apologies for length of the post, but I want get down all that I have re James to avoid duplication. Have also put it on the England board as it covers the counties of Durham, London, Middlesex & Essex.
1881 Census (RG11/63/66/13)
13 Henry? Place, Hammersmith
James Johnson Boarder Unm 25 Gasfitter born Durham, Durham
1883 (19th Aug) Marriage at St George, Bloomsbury, London
James Carr Johnson, 27, Bachelor, Gasfitter, 9, Woburn Mews West, father - William Carr Johnson, Book-keeper
Chrissy Battley, 28, Spinster, 9, Woburn Mews West, father - Henry Richard Battley (deceased), Publican
1885 (Nov 15th) St Stephen, Rochester Row, London
Jane Florence Carr Johnson (b 11th March 1883) & Dolly (Dorothy) Carr Johnson (b 8th Oct 1885) baptised to parents James & Chrissie Johnson of 5, Warwick Place West, St George Hannover Square, London. James a Gasfitter.
1888 (Feb 5th) St Stephen, Rochester Row, London
Frederick James Carr Johnson (b 1888) baptised to parents James Carr & Cissy Johnson of 6, Warwick Place West, St George Hannover Square, London. James a Book Keeper.
1890 daughter Rosina Arden Johnson born, no baptism found as yet.
1891 Census (RG12/73/82/43)
6, Warwick Place West, St George Hannover Square, London
Jas Johnson Head 34 Gasfitter Durham
Crissy " Wife 34 Westminster
Florence " Dau 7 St Geo Han Sq
Dolly " Dau 5 St Geo Han Sq
Fred'k " Son 3 St Geo Han Sq
Rosina " Dau 7mos St Geo Han Sq
1893 (Jul 19th) St Saviours, Pimlico
William Carr Johnson (born 4th May 1893) baptised to parents James Carr & Crissy Johnson of 16, Charlwood Place. James a Gasfitter.
1900 (June 30th) St Saviours, Pimlico
Ida Carr Johnson (born 8th Jan 1900) (birth registered in Dec qtr 1899 tho!) to parents James & Crissy Johnson of 57, ? Street. James a Gas Fitter.
Mar qtr 1900 St Geo H Sq death of Crissy Johnson registered.
Dec qtr 1900 St Geo H Sq (2nd marriage) to Harriet Gunther (Nee' Weeks). Don't have the marriage record as yet.
1901 (RG13/93/40/430
108, Lillington Street, St John, Westminster
J Johnson Head 39 Gas Fitter Durham
J Johnson Wife 32 Collar Button Hole Machinist (The J for first initial does look like a J but should be H)
William Johnson Son 7 London, Pimlico
Charles Gunther 5 London, Pimlico
Dorothy Gunther 4 London, Westminster
Between 1903 & 1908 4 children were baptised at St James The Less, Thorndike St, Westminster. All baptised to James Carr & Harriet Johnson of Lillington Street with James as a Gas Fitter. (Louisa Maud in 1903, Ellen Florence in 1904, Ethel May in 1906 & Ernest Alfred in 1908.)
In 1911 James Carr Johnson is shown as 49 and a Journeyman Gasfitter and Furniture Porter born in County of Durham.
I have them on electoral records between 1907 & 1929 in London.
Harriet dies in Ilford, Essex in 1944 & James I believe dies in 1942 in the same area.
The later census returns James seems to have knocked around 5 years off his age. Also the place of birth is just the county of Durham, no place of birth within the county is actually given.
So, where was James Carr Johnson before 1881, he seems not to exist before that? Also what of his father William Carr Johnson, I cannot find a single record for him, not one! No birth,baptism, marriage, census return, death/burial record nothing!
Can anyone help? Again my apologies re the length of the post. Also I have traced the children of both James marriages forward so don't require that doing, just pushing the Johnson's back.
Many thanks in advance.
Kind regards
David