James William Scales, Leeds, 1888-1914

[Jomot]

Not his baptism I'm afraid, but James William Scales aged 26 of 'Lds Township Infy' was buried at Leeds Catholic Cemetery (Killingbeck) on 28 Sep 1914.  Date of death given as 25 Sep 1914.  Grave Reference BA 152.

[keyboard86]

OK that looks spot on, so I wonder who the James William Scales was who said he was born in Leeds signing up for the Royal Engineers 1915?


EDIT he was born 1892 Leeds, incorrectly transcribed as 1889, the 5 year old Mary Alice Scales with James William in 1891 census married a James Allen 1909 Leeds.

Anyone found 1891 family in 1901?
Keyboard86

[drscales]

Thanks Jomot - I'm eagerly awaiting the B+D Certificates, due today
Let's see if this confirmes your find - I really hope so!

keyboard86 - are you also researching this Scales-branch?
Love to get in touch, then.

[drscales]

Hm, I think that
John Kiske Seales 1891=
John Duke Scales 1881=
John Rook Scales b. Q4 1873, 9B 477 =
John R Scales on census 1901, Leeds, wife Sarah, with three sons =
John Scales married Sarah Dickinson Q3 1893, Leeds 9B 744 =
John R Scales, census 1911 =
John R Scales, died Q4 1927, 9B 456

What do you think?
Can anyone please check the original census sheets for Duke/Kiske/Rook?
 
       Dominic

[keyboard86]

Hi again,  I have looked at the original census pages for John R Scales, in 1881 it does appear to be "Duke" possibly a misheard/misread Rook/e. 1891 looks to be Rook/e
1901 John R Scales 28 b Leeds with Sarah 25, John Wm 6, Walter 4, Samuel 3 months, Joseph Dickinson 20 Brother in law Census ref RG13/4222/126/13


PS No interest in family, just glad to help out!

[drscales]

Thanks a lot for checking, keyboard86!

I'm still waiting for the mail from GRO with the birth and death certificates for James William...

[keyboard86]

Hi again, the John Rook Scales birth December qtr 1873 Leeds has Mothers maiden name as Johnson

A quick check Mmn Johnson also gives Harriett Scales Dec qtr 1871 Leeds 098 417

Going on the below deaths there was also a Harriet Scales mmn Johnson Dec qtr 1869 Leeds

Mary Elizabeth Scales September qtr 1875 Leeds 098 516
Keyboard86

EDIT There are deaths of Harriet Scales aged 1 Dec qtr 1873 and Mary Elizabeth Scales Dec qtr 1875 aged 0 Leeds

All the children on the 1881 census with John "Duke" Scales had mmn of Johnson

[Calverley Lad]

SCALES, Harriet   5 years   1848   Burmantofts Cemetery (Beckett Street Cemetery)   Consecrated    grave No1609 (no parent listed)
SCALES, Harriet   11 months   1870   Burmantofts Cemetery (Beckett Street Cemetery)   Consecrated   grave No3663 (daughter of John)
SCALES, Harriet   1 year 9 months   1873   Burmantofts Cemetery (Beckett Street Cemetery)   Consecrated grave No 1925 (daughter of John)
SCALES, Mary Elizabeth   4 months   1876   Burmantofts Cemetery (Beckett Street Cemetery)   Consecrated grave No8961 (daughter of John)
SCALES, Mary Elizabeth   4 months   1899   Burmantofts Cemetery (Beckett Street Cemetery)   Consecrated grave No9846 (daughter of John)
 Brian

[keyboard86]

Hi again,  John Scales married Mary Johnson September qtr 1858 Pickering 9d 567 in 1871 John/Mary/Alice J and Sarah I are on RG10/4553/142/4, Ann aged 8 Grandaughter b Pickering is with amongst others a Jane Johnson 58 Widow
Census ref RG10/4841/125/5
Keyboard86