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Help to confirm date/place with clothing/beard style
« on: Monday 28 November 16 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone,
does anyone out there have experience with 19th century fashions? I have this photo of an ancestor whom I suspect is my GGG grandfather, a farrier in Poplar, London in the 1830s to 1860s. I was just wondering if he looks like a typical Londoner for that time? I am in Australia, and I'm not even sure what men wore here at that time. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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Alison

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Re: Help to confirm date/place with clothing/beard style
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 November 16 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Greetings.

The style of beard (shaven above the jawline) is certainly consistent with the 1850s
http://picclick.ca/1850s-Daguerreotype-Ambrotype-Gold-Frame-Brown-Hair-282197929696.html

Working clothes don't follow fashion so are harder to date with any certainty, but the thigh-length coat and low-crown hat are consistent with pictures I have seen from the 2nd half of the 19th century.
Please help me to help you by citing sources for information.

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Re: Help to confirm date/place with clothing/beard style
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 November 16 15:40 GMT (UK) »
There's nothing in the dress style that gives anything away although as PhilipS says the Newgate Frill was popular 1850's-70's.
What does give it away is that this is an ambrotype.
This was the process used in the 1850's but was superseded by the albumin print in 1858.
These were still being produced into the early 60's.
So 1850's-early 1860's.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Help to confirm date/place with clothing/beard style
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 November 16 01:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your prompt replies. Confirming it is indeed a photo from the 1850s onward helps me a lot because the other person I thought it might have been would only have been 17-25 at that time, and this man is certainly older.

thanks for your help, and the link to the ambrotypes for sale was an eye opener for me! I didn't realise people sold them as antiques of unknown origin...and I can see so many faces with that beard :)
regards,
Alison