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Richard William Moore - Mineral Water
« on: Saturday 10 December 16 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Around 1916-1920 Richard William Moore, a publican from Dublin decided to move north to Belfast and set up a bottled water company with a friend. They were pressurised by troubles in the North and the company folded. I don't know what it was called. He was married to Susanna Cameron.

His three sons John b. 1917  Richard b. 1918 and Rowland b. 1919 were all born in Belfast but he returned to Dublin soon after the troubles took a grip. His sons don't appear on any register or BMD searches I carried out.

Where can I find them? Furthermore, does anyone know anything about the mysterious water!

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Re: Richard William Moore - Mineral Water
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 December 16 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Rowland Brendan Moore 1919
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1M3-92Z

If this is him his cert won't be online free on Irish Genealogy yet due to the 100 year rule, same for the other two, fairly sure NIDirect follows the 100 year rule as well for it online images (for a small fee) so you can wait a few years or order the Certs.

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Re: Richard William Moore - Mineral Water
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 December 16 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Yes, thats him.
Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Richard William Moore - Mineral Water
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 December 16 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Lots of possibilities posted for you in 2014- have you tried to follow them up? See here
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!


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Re: Richard William Moore - Mineral Water
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 December 16 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Lots of possibilities posted for you in 2014- have you tried to follow them up? See here

Thank you for alerting me - I didn't know.

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Re: Richard William Moore - Mineral Water
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 December 16 10:36 GMT (UK) »
At the time that the Moores were in Belfast they were living in Camden Street.

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Re: Richard William Moore - Mineral Water
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 December 16 11:47 GMT (UK) »
LINK to marriage civil record details

The church records shows
Richard MOORE s/o John MOORE & Elizabeth DONNELLY (both deceased)
of 50 Mount Pleasant Ave, Rathmines
married Sept 26 1917 in Terenure Catholic Parish
Susanna CAMERON d/o John CAMERON & Ellen GREEN (add 4 CollenanTea? Troon Scotland)
of Grove Pk., Crumlin Road
but is not yet freely online

Possible death for Richard in 1956 LINK informant a son named Ronald
Possible death for Susanna in 1963 LINK in hospital, informant the coroner
LINK (see page 362) to will - probate to Sean MOORE Clerk (Sean being the Irish for John being tenuous link)
Address on the will is 69 St Agnes Park Crumlin which is very close to 56 Hillsbrook Ave Perrystown
The Ranelagh address on the death certificate may have been a member of the family

FTR I have a cousin named Roland but has been known all his life as Ronald

There is a marriage record in 1945 for a Ronald Brendan MOORE in Dublin South
Not yet online but reference Dublin South Q3 V2 P795

Richard, Susanna and Ronald are buried in Mount Jerome cemetery - Picture of grave
Ronald's date of death will allow you order a death certificate which may give more information
Also the cemetery may be able to help with details of who owns the grave

Bearing in mind you need to check these are the correct family as that you are looking for  ;)
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Richard William Moore - Mineral Water
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 December 16 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Just in case not known to you

Link to marriage of Richard's parents in Clondalkin on Nov 25 1874

Birth of Richard William MOORE on Jan 11 1887 LINK #251

Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Richard William Moore - Mineral Water
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 December 16 13:52 GMT (UK) »
LINK to John Moore, Publican and Grocer and family on the 1901 census
at house 2 in Crumlin Road (Ushers Quay, Dublin)

LINK to Elizabeth MOORE, now a widow on the 1911 census
at house 1 in Crumlin Road (Usher's Quay, Dublin)
listed is her son Richwell – who I think is Richard

Death of John James MOORE Jul 22 1904 - LINK
LINK to will record

Death of Elizabeth MOORE May 06 1916 – LINK Son Richard the informant
LINK to will record

Martha MOORE m John KEANE Jun 28 1910 LINK
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder