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Christopher Todd - Durham died 1850 St Brandon
« on: Monday 19 December 16 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I am trying to work out the children of Christopher Todd & Eleanor Hart, who were married in 1779. Refer previous post on their son George Todd
I have been reviewing all of the trees on ancestry and they all basically have the same information but I am wondering why many of the trees have two ‘Christopher’s being born to Christopher & Eleanor:

•   Elizabeth Hart 1778–1853
•   Robert Todd 1780–1837
•   Christopher Todd 1782–1847
•   Eleanor Todd 1784–1848
•   Mary Todd 1787–
•   William Todd 1789–
•   Ann Todd 1791–
•   Joseph Todd 1793–1797
•   George Todd 1797–1872
•   Christopher 1803-1850

This can’t be accurate as from what I can tell, they only had son named Christopher (born 1782 and died 1847).

To verify the children of Christopher & Eleanor’s children, I’ve been going through Family Search, FreeReg & Durham Records on line to find their baptism and marriages myself along with the children of those marriages (some of the trees have dates, some don’t).

According to the photo on find my graves, the Christopher listed is aged 52 (making him born 1798), but the headstone says ‘son & brother’ of the above, this would indicate to me that he is the son of Robert and brother to the three females listed

The trees on Ancestry for Robert Todd & Isabella Apedale, all have them having a different son named Christopher being born in 1803 and no death date.

•   Elizabeth Todd 1802–
•   Christopher Todd 1803
•   Ann Todd 1805–
•   Eleanor Todd 1808–1849
•   Hannah Todd 1813-1835
•   Margaret Todd 1810–
•   Mary Todd 1820–1823

Am I right in thinking that the Christopher on the headstone is this Christopher (born 1803) and that age on the headstone is not accurate? I wrote to a few people to ask to clarify why there were two Christopher’s being the son of Christopher & Eleanor but only got one reply with ‘I’ve taken the information from other trees’. 

Appreciate thoughts:

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Re: Christopher Todd - Durham died 1850 St Brandon
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 December 16 21:55 GMT (UK) »
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‘I’ve taken the information from other trees’. 

That is probably your answer - one person posted it and everyone else just copied it! Could the Christopher born 1803 be with his grandparents in the 1841 census, and because there are no relationships there, someone has assumed it is their son?
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Re: Christopher Todd - Durham died 1850 St Brandon
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 December 16 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Did you see this baptism on DRO ~

St Laurence, Pittington
27 Nov 1803
Christopher Todd of Shadforth b. 22 Oct. 2nd child, 1st son of Robert Todd (mason)
by Isabella Apedale (daughter of Anthony Apedale a shoemaker of Bishop Auckland)

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Re: Christopher Todd - Durham died 1850 St Brandon
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 December 16 23:21 GMT (UK) »
That's a good find Gadget - so he was Christopher and Eleanor's grandson, not their son.
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Re: Christopher Todd - Durham died 1850 St Brandon
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 December 16 23:25 GMT (UK) »
Looks like it.

Looking for a baptism for Eleanor Hart at the moment to check her age.
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Re: Christopher Todd - Durham died 1850 St Brandon
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 December 16 23:32 GMT (UK) »
Thanks

I haven't attempted to try the 1841 census yet, though one tree does have Christopher aged 35  living in Chelsea with a Isabella Todd (aged 17) in Chelsea. Isabella being the sister apparently, but I need to check further.

Another tree has the same Christopher living in Durham with a Dorothy. Though this Christopher is aged 55.

Another two trees has this Christopher death in 1856. But I can't help but think that I should take what is on the headstone being the prove where it says 'son & brother' of above. Son of Robert and brother to the three females.

I've just though had another look at the headstone - I'm doubting the year is 1850, I think now it says 1856 and I can't find a death for a Christopher in 1850.









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Re: Christopher Todd - Durham died 1850 St Brandon
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 December 16 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Looks like it.

Looking for a baptism for Eleanor Hart at the moment to check her age.

Hi

I think I found Eleanor's baptism yesterday to be in 1752 to a William Hart & Elizabeth Vint - though not sure:

Birth 25 MAY 1752 • Kirk Merrington,Durham,England

This is on FamilySearch - can't find it on DRO or FreeReg.


Name
Eleanor Hart
Gender
Female
Christening Date
25 May 1752
Christening Place
KIRK MERRINGTON,DURHAM,ENGLAND
Father's Name
William Hart
Baker, King, Rice - Boxford, Suffolk, Baldwin - Bures St Mary, Suffolk
Richer - Thorpe-Le-Soken & Colchester, Essex
Pritty - Wivenhone Essex, St Martin Colchester, Essex
Scutcher/Cutchey - Great Bentley & Great Clacton, Essex

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Re: Christopher Todd - Durham died 1850 St Brandon
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 December 16 23:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Did you see this baptism on DRO ~

St Laurence, Pittington
27 Nov 1803
Christopher Todd of Shadforth b. 22 Oct. 2nd child, 1st son of Robert Todd (mason)
by Isabella Apedale (daughter of Anthony Apedale a shoemaker of Bishop Auckland)

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Yes I also found that yesterday on England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 though the surname of Isabella says 'Akedale'
Baker, King, Rice - Boxford, Suffolk, Baldwin - Bures St Mary, Suffolk
Richer - Thorpe-Le-Soken & Colchester, Essex
Pritty - Wivenhone Essex, St Martin Colchester, Essex
Scutcher/Cutchey - Great Bentley & Great Clacton, Essex

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Re: Christopher Todd - Durham died 1850 St Brandon
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 December 16 23:40 GMT (UK) »
RE Eleanor Hart bapt - That would fit with the naming of her first daughter.

I think I'd take the trees with a pinch of salt.

I've found a possible Christopher in Darlington in 1841 but not sure. Married to a Mathilda.

Sorry, I'm having probs with small keyboard and low light. Think I'll stop for tonight  :-\

Re the baptism of Christopher  - DRO would be the most accurate.
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