Look up request: Elizabeth GRENYER

[Ancestry Addicted]

Hello me again!

Elizabeth Grenyer married Richard Mills at Saint Nicholas, Brighton on February 22nd 1839. The marriage record states that her parents were called Anna Grenyer and John Gullend.

According to the census returns of 1861 and 1871 she was born in Brighton in 1818/1817.

I can't find a likely birth record for Elizabeth. I think that the name Grenyer is not quite right, but I haven't found any birth records that seem to fit my Elizabeth even when I search her name with the variants option selected.

Also, I don't understand why Elizabeth would have been christened Grenyer rather than Gullend.

Sorry for my poor English. Any insight at all would be really appreciated.

Fleur xx

[Millmoor]

How about this one?

Elizabeth Grinyer - christening St Nicholas, Brighton 22 June 1817. Mother Hannah Grinyer.

The surname Grinyer rather than Gullend suggests she was illegitimate. Either she knew her father's name or Anna(Hannah?) married John Gullend after she was born.

William

[keyboard86]

Hi the 1841/51 census returns if they help at all:-

Bread Street, Brighton 1841

Richard Mills 24
Elizabeth 24
John 2
Richard 1
HO107/1121/ 6/11 / 14

Sun Street, Brighton 1851

Richard MILL 34 occ Chair Maker
E Mill 34
R Mill 11 son
G Mill 8 son
J Mill 4 son
Census ref HO107/1645/55/2
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi all I can locate at least two births in Brighthelmstone mmn Gringer/Grinyer on the new GRO Index, the John in 1841 Census?
Keyboard86

[Ancestry Addicted]

Hi all I can locate at least two births in Brighthelmstone mmn Gringer/Grinyer on the new GRO Index, the John in 1841 Census?
Keyboard86

Could well be! Seems about right.

[Ancestry Addicted]

How about this one?

Elizabeth Grinyer - christening St Nicholas, Brighton 22 June 1817. Mother Hannah Grinyer.

The surname Grinyer rather than Gullend suggests she was illegitimate. Either she knew her father's name or Anna(Hannah?) married John Gullend after she was born.

William

Thank you! I thought she was perhaps illegitimate but I was thrown at him being named on her marriage record, as you say, perhaps she knew the identify of her father

[Millmoor]

The actual image of the baptism I referred to can actually be viewed on Familysearch.

To locate it use the catalogue - enter Brighton in the search box and select Brighton, Sussex, England and from its list of records select church records, scroll down until you come to the entry for Bishop's Transcripts, click on that and then find a symbol showing a camera. (I had to sign in to view the images but it is free!).  The image is number 350 and states June 22nd (1817) Elizabeth, base born daughter of Hannah Grinyer, Abode King Street.

Its a bit fiddly but it works!

William

[Ancestry Addicted]

The actual image of the baptism I referred to can actually be viewed on Familysearch.

To locate it use the catalogue - enter Brighton in the search box and select Brighton, Sussex, England and from its list of records select church records, scroll down until you come to the entry for Bishop's Transcripts, click on that and then find a symbol showing a camera. (I had to sign in to view the images but it is free!).  The image is number 350 and states June 22nd (1817) Elizabeth, base born daughter of Hannah Grinyer, Abode King Street.

Its a bit fiddly but it works!

William

Ohhhh you champion, thank you so much