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Baptism Record of Child - Natural vs Lawful Parents
« on: Thursday 19 January 17 09:08 GMT (UK) »
I have the image of the Baptism record for one Helen Memes(s), born to parents James Memes(s) and Eliz. Adam in Garvock, 1780, and noticed that out of all the other Baptisms recorded on the same page, hers was the only one which stated that she was the "natural" child of her parents.  Every other entry states "lawful" child of the parents.  Given that, according to records, Helen was the only child born to those particular parents, does that possibly mean that she was illegitimate?
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Re: Baptism Record of Child - Natural vs Lawful Parents
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 January 17 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Generally it would be used to indicate an illegitimate birth, especially if all others by same minister are described as being "lawful".

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Re: Baptism Record of Child - Natural vs Lawful Parents
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 January 17 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that Falkryn  :)
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Re: Baptism Record of Child - Natural vs Lawful Parents
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 January 17 00:10 GMT (UK) »
I was in touch with Scotland's People, who checked the Kirk Session records for me, and Helen Memes(s) was in fact illegitimate.
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Re: Baptism Record of Child - Natural vs Lawful Parents
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 January 17 09:23 GMT (UK) »
'Natural' child always means illegitimate child.
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