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Offline ali_wooding

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Searching for John Docherty Birth!
« on: Saturday 11 February 17 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I am researching my neice's family tree for her 16th Birthday, and am struggling to find the birth record for one of her great grandparents.  We are in England, and I have totally got into the ScotlandsPeople website thingy (excellent value compared to English certificates!), but I just cannot find her great grandfather John Docherty born between 1880 and 1883 in Lanarkshire to John Docherty and Elizabeth Marshall.

He married in 1911 in Cowdenbeath to Elizabeth Parker, and died in 1962 in Dunfermline.

His age on his marriage certificate, death certificate and on census place his year of birth in question, but I know from the 1911 census that he was definitely born in Lanark.  Nothing more specific though I'm afraid.

If anyone by any strange chance has any more information or would be willing to help me discover it it would be much appreciated!

Not that my neice will probably see the value in this until she's much older of course, but I still think it's worth doing for her!

Many thanks!

Ali

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Re: Searching for John Docherty Birth!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 February 17 22:41 GMT (UK) »
I can see a John Dougherty m an Eliza Marshall in Kirkintilloch, Dumbartonshire in 1873 SP reference 498/ 34. It may be a different couple, but at moment, not seeing a better match.

At least one birth, daughter Mary:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY5T-C5N

Have you looked for your John under alternative spelling of surname and possible alternative area/s?
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Re: Searching for John Docherty Birth!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 February 17 22:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

What was John's father's occupation on that 1911 marriage cert?

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Re: Searching for John Docherty Birth!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 February 17 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Scotsmum, this might fit as a family for that marriage and daughter Mary?

1891:

John Docherty 38 stone mason b. Ireland
Elizabeth Docherty 44 b. Ireland
Mary Docherty 17 b. Kirkintiloch, Dumbartonsh
Lizzie Docherty 15
Jane Docherty 13
John Docherty 10 b. Maryhill, Lanarkshire
James Docherty 8
William Docherty 6
Edward Docherty 3

Address: 38 Bell St New Monkland/Airdrie, Lanarkshire

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Re: Searching for John Docherty Birth!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 February 17 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Was just about to post same, MonicaL.

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Re: Searching for John Docherty Birth!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 February 17 22:52 GMT (UK) »
My John Docherty's father was another John Docherty, who was shown as a Mason (Journeyman) on the 1911 marriage.

Thanks for the replies by the way, super speedy!

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Re: Searching for John Docherty Birth!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 February 17 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Think the marriage and census are likely to be right family then.
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Re: Searching for John Docherty Birth!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 February 17 22:55 GMT (UK) »
I did see that census entry, but my Elizabeth wasn't born in Ireland. And I had a look at a Maryhill birth that I thought would match and it didn't... Sometimes I dislike my hobby.

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Re: Searching for John Docherty Birth!
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 February 17 22:58 GMT (UK) »
That is promising then Ali. Looks like Scotsmum marriage details may well be correct  :)

Trying to find the family now in 1901. This is the closest I can see:

Elizabeth Docherty 45 b. Milton, stirlingshire
Jeanie Docherty 25 power loom weaver Partick, Lanarkshire
William Docherty 16 b. Kirkintilloch, Dumbartonshire
Edward Docherty 14 b. Kirkintilloch, Dumbartonshire

Address: 11 Church Pl, Glasgow-Milton

Birth places a little different. Can't tell the marital status for this Elizabeth from the transcript, Ali.

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