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Re: GRO - what does this mean?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 13 February 17 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Would do the same but I'm sneezing like a good'un today. Will get some lunch though and ponder... :)
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: GRO - what does this mean?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 13 February 17 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Food for thought.....
There is a marriage in Petersfield RD in 1844 with a Charles Linkhorn and a Jane Pollard on the same page.
PB
So they could be this couple in 1871 Droxford HO107; Piece: 1676; Folio: 247; Page: 1
Charles Lincork   39
Jane Lincork   37
Edmund Lincork   7
Lucy Lincork   3
William Lincork   11 Mo
[ancestry transcription, corrected to Linkhorn in 2012 by 'linkdeehorn' so Edmund's parents?

Need to find a link between Linkhorn & Penfold...will try Edmund's or Hannah's sisters. Though 'niece' may be a loose term in those days.

ADDED: Not Lucy Linkhorn
Marriages Jun 1894 
Briant    Edward        Chichester    2b   707    
Butter/Butler    Alice        Chichester    2b   707    
Hounsome    Samuel        Chichester    2b   707    
Linkhorn    Lucy        Chichester    2b   707

Hannah Windsor's sisters from 1861, 1871 censuses Elizabeth b ca 1835, Jane b ca 1840, Mary b ca 1847, Kate b ca 1853, can see no marriages to Penfold.

Back to the drawing board  ???
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: GRO - what does this mean?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 13 February 17 15:56 GMT (UK) »
I think that couple in 1871 are too young to have been married in 1844! :)
Williams - Abergavenny/Cardigan
Morris - Cardigan
Penfold - Pagham/Hampshire
Mitchell - Sittingbourne
Matthews - Sittingbourne
Everard - Braintree
Lowe - Kidderminster
Giles - Kidderminster
Sadler - London
Miller -Wiltshire/Mountain Ash
Bracher - Wiltshire
Tucker - North Devon

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Re: GRO - what does this mean?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 13 February 17 16:02 GMT (UK) »
 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ who'd have thought I had A level maths [long time ago though]

ADDED: Don't know if this adds a little extra evidence but 1841 HO107; Piece: 387; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Droxford; County: Hampshire; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 30; Page: 5
George Penfold   40
Franes Penfold   35
George Penfold   14
Hugh Penfold   10
Charles Penfold   8
Hanny Penfold   6
Richard Penfold   4
Sarah Penfold   3
So George's mother was a Frances....
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: GRO - what does this mean?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 13 February 17 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi again.

I think you will find that the census posted for Charles Lincork (image looks like Lincorn) and family is actually for 1851  :). And they are traceable in the 1861 census as well with more children.

This Jane would certainly be too old to be having the young Penfold children.

PB

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Re: GRO - what does this mean?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 13 February 17 16:55 GMT (UK) »
 :-[ :-[ :-[ more embarrassment - slip of the finger there.

Bit of an excuse - am a bit excited today because I this morning found a new g g aunt & also this afternoon found my g g grandfather's army record for 1851 in India. Who knows, may even find his long sought baptism soon... [see profile]
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: GRO - what does this mean?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 13 February 17 17:02 GMT (UK) »
:)

All good stuff, thanks.  Still wondering about the Linkhorn/Pollard/Penfold links.

It seems Charles Linkhorn (1812) married Jane Pollard (1814) in 1844 and I believe they are the paretns of Edmund Linkhorn (1844), married as Edmund Pollard Linkhorn in 1867...  but this is obviously not the ?Jane Pollard who was the mother of Frances and her siblings (except the one with apparently a Linkhorn mother!)
Williams - Abergavenny/Cardigan
Morris - Cardigan
Penfold - Pagham/Hampshire
Mitchell - Sittingbourne
Matthews - Sittingbourne
Everard - Braintree
Lowe - Kidderminster
Giles - Kidderminster
Sadler - London
Miller -Wiltshire/Mountain Ash
Bracher - Wiltshire
Tucker - North Devon

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Re: GRO - what does this mean?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 13 February 17 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Getting there....

Birth of Jane Pollard, France's mother, before Jane Pollard senior married Charles Linkhorn I reckon.

Is it common for the birth to be noted as being illegitimate even though the father is named?
Williams - Abergavenny/Cardigan
Morris - Cardigan
Penfold - Pagham/Hampshire
Mitchell - Sittingbourne
Matthews - Sittingbourne
Everard - Braintree
Lowe - Kidderminster
Giles - Kidderminster
Sadler - London
Miller -Wiltshire/Mountain Ash
Bracher - Wiltshire
Tucker - North Devon

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Re: GRO - what does this mean?
« Reply #26 on: Monday 13 February 17 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Getting there....
Is it common for the birth to be noted as being illegitimate even though the father is named?

Good find; yes, most ministers would mark illegitimate if parents not married, just that father's name indicates he acknowledged his paternity.

I think I need a lightbulb moment during my off-line processing overnight; it's how I solve difficult crossword clues  ;D
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON