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Heath family
« on: Sunday 05 March 17 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, I am trying to track down my dad's family.  Heath
Dad was an only child, his dad 'John Henry Heath' was an only child (his mothers maiden name was Pidgeon - this line I have managed to track back quite a way  :)) however..... The Heath side is proving tricky, any help out there?  I know John Henry Heath was born in Wandsworth, his dad was called John Richard Heath.  But brick wall time, Help  :)

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Re: Heath family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 March 17 18:52 GMT (UK) »
the John Heath who married a Pidgeon did not use a middle name at marriage

Parish register image
Page 87 entry 173
St Stephens Wandsworth
Marriage after banns 23 Dec 1916
John Heath 24 bachelor occ engine driver address 8 Point Pleasant father John Richard heath (deceased) labourer
Florence Emily Pidgeon 23 Spinster 5 Ludlow Rd father Joseph Henry Pidgeopn occ labourer
witnesses Joseph Henry Pidgeon Emily batchelor
all signed

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Re: Heath family
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 March 17 18:55 GMT (UK) »
That's the one, I keep guessing about the middle name - sometimes mentioned (on his son's war memorial post) so not 100%.  Any help would be wonderful xx

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Re: Heath family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 March 17 19:13 GMT (UK) »
I don't think this John had a middle name  -but it seems we have the correct marriage - there are several trees on A*****y which have conflicting information -so I will try to find correct details

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Heath family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 March 17 19:23 GMT (UK) »
1901 relationships have been mistranscribed
this is from the image
1901
20 Stimpsons Buildings Wandsworth
Kate Deegan Head widow 68 Cork Ireland
John Deegan son single 39 Gas Stoker Putney
James Watson Boarder 14 Wandsworth
Emma Watson Boarder 11 Wandsworth
Kate Connor niece 8 Wandsworth
Dick? Connor nephew 5 Wandsworth
JOHN HEATH Boarder Married 34 Gas Stoker Wandsworth
George Heath Boarder 13 wandsworth
Charles Heath Boarder 11 Wandsworth
JOHN HEATH boarder 8 Wandsworth
RG13 484 68

this is possibly John Richard Heath with sons George Charles & John
some tree have John Richard Heath married to Ellen Deegan - haven't found that marriage - will research further

there is Death reg FreeBMD
John R Heath
age 44
Jun qtr 1911
Wandsworth
1d 339

and burial record
John Richard Heath
buried 31 May 1911
Putney Vale Cemetery Wandsworth

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Heath family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 March 17 19:44 GMT (UK) »
I have found a marriage reg - but who we think is John Richard Heath doesn't use a middle name
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Marriage
Jun qtr 1887
Wandsworth
on same page
John Heath
Ellen Deegan
1d 1083

1891
6 Stimpsons Buildings
Wandsworth Surrey
J.HEATH Head M 23 Gas Stoker Wandsworth Surrey
Ellen wife 23 Putney Surrey
George son 3 Wandsworth
Charles son 1 Wandsworth
and at 20 Stimpsons Buildings (where John and children were boarders to Kate Deegan in 1901)
John Deegan Head M 56 Gas Stoker Ireland
Kate wife 55 charwoman Ireland
John son S 26 Blacksmith's labourer Wandsworth
kate daughter widow 29 Lambeth
Millie Granddaughter 10 scholar
RG12 448 85 2

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Heath family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 March 17 20:28 GMT (UK) »
I think we are on the right path

when John Heath married Florence emily pidgeon in 1916 he gave his address as 8 Point Pleasant
His father John Richard Heath lived at point pleasant with his parents
John Richard heath can only be found on 1 census with his wife Ellen Deegan -1891
1901 John Richard heath is described as married but is boarding with his wife's mother - before marriage he lives with his parents and siblings at Point Pleasant
After 1901 he went to live with his widowed mother at Point Pleasant

must look for his wife

here's John Richard in 1881
4 Point Pleasant wandsworth
Charles heath Head M 52 labourer Claygate Surrey
Sarah wife 43 Wimbledon
Charles son S lab Wandsworth
George Henry son 16 lab Wandsworth
JOHN RICHARD son 14 scholar Wandsworth
Mary Ann daughter 10 scholar Wandsworth
Charlotte daughter 5 scholar Wandsworth
RG11 657 64 16

Baptism Parish reg
Page 245 entry 1957 All Saints Wandsworth
John Richard son of Charles & Sarah Heath
address Wandsworth
occupation labourer

1871
5 Point Pleasant Wandsworth
Charles heath Head M 42 day labourer Thames Ditton Surrey
Sarah wife 34 Wimbledon
Ada daughter 13
Charles son 11
Frances C daughter 9
George H son 6
JOHN R son 4
Mary Ann daughter 3
children all b Wandsworth
RG10 709 47 2 

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Heath family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 March 17 20:35 GMT (UK) »
forgot to post this
Birth reg freeBMD
John Henry Heath
Jun qtr 1918
mother's maiden name Pidgeon
Wandsworth
1d 971

died 1947

Have to go -will post more tomorrow - do you think we are on the right track?

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Heath family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 March 17 21:32 GMT (UK) »
1861 census
1 Point Pleasant
Charles Heath 30 Thames Ditton Surrey
Sarah 24 born Wimbledon
Adah daughter born Wandsworth
Charles son age 1 born Wandsworth

GRO
Ada born 1857 Wandsworth, mmn Goring
Charles born Wandsworth,  mmn Goring

Charles Heath father Charles, labourer, married Sarah Goring father Henry, labourer, on 25 December 1856 at St John the Evangalist Lambeth. Both were full age both signed.
Witnesses G Down and E Crawford made their mark.
Added address given for bride and groom Webber Street?