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George Green married to Wilkie Plews
« on: Tuesday 14 March 17 04:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
     I am trying to find any information on George Green and Wilkie Plews.

     I have the following information  - 

    a)  Wilkie Plews - b. 29 Apr 1835 in Newbattle, Midlothian, Scotland; d.  Jul 1887 in Newington, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland.

          Parents -
          Father - Matthew Plews - b. Abt. 1791 in Crakehall, Yorkshire, England ; d. 16 Mar 1876 in Newington, Edinburgh, Scotland.
          Mother - Jane (Jean/Janet) Wilkie - b. ???? ; d. ??? (between 1835 - 1838) - I have not found Jane's birth or death.

          There were about 10 children in this Plews family, all born in Newbattle. Wilkie was the youngest born in 1835. Her mother Jane died some where between Wilkie's birth in 1835 and 1838, when Matthew married for the second time to Elizabeth Phipps on 16 Dec 1838 in Newbattle.

      b)  In SP I have found -
       Wilkie's birth - 1835 to Parents Matthew Plews and Jane Wilkie ; 
        The 1851 Census - Wilkie is a Household servant, aged 15, in the Robertson household (in   Hamilton Lanark), born in Newbattle, Edinburgh.
        Wilkie's Death - July, 1887 in Newington, Scotland - Name as Wilkie Green, aged 52,
She was a Housekeeper (domestic servant), widow of George Green, butler; Witness, William Cairns, Nephew.

       c) In FamilySearch - found Wilkie in the 1841 Census - aged 6, in Well, Yorkshire North Riding, England living with a family (Palliser) that is not her own - possibly relatives??  I'm guessing that her mother Jane has died by this stage.   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ5Z-S7X

       d) I have found the birth of a son - George Wilkie Green –
            http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/districts.pl?r=31609606:4620&d=bmd_1445847588
            Births Mar 1861  -  GREEN      George Wilkie     Marylebone  1a           411

           Also found Birth Reg  in FamilySearch - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NZH-LXF

       e)  Also in the 1861 Census - for St Marylebone, London, Middlesex, England (Residence Note      Charles Street), I found -
         Household   Role   Gender   Age   Birthplace
         Wilkie Plews    Wife   F   26   Scotland
         George Plews    Son   M   0   Marylebone, Middlesex

         There is no mention of George Green, her 'husband'. Has he died by this stage?
       
         f) Information on son, George Wilkie Green –
             Marriage - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DDZ-9CG

             George Wilkie Green - England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
         
             Name     George Wilkie Green     
             Event Type     Marriage     
             Registration Quarter     Jan-Feb-Mar     
             Registration Year     1888     
             Registration District     Fulham     
             County     London     
             Event Place     Fulham, London, England     
             Volume     1A     
             Page     315     
             Line Number     364     
   
             George Wilkie Green married Mary Fardon.   

"England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch      (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DDZ-9CG : accessed 23 November 2015), George Wilkie Green, 1888; from “England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005,” database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Marriage, Fulham, London, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

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             Obituary - George Wilkie Green  in Australia

              http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/106130635

              Wednesday, August 25, 1943         The Cumberland Argus and Fruitgrowers' Advocate
              Page Seven

              Mr George Wilkie Green (82), of Bank Street, Westmead, died in hospital at Bondi
              on Sunday. His wife pre-deceased him. A daughter survives. The funeral left the
              parlours of Charles Innes and Son, parramatta, yesterday for the Church of England
              Cemetery, Rookwood.

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I have no information about Wilkie after 1861 Census and when she died in 1887, apart from the birth of son George in 1861.

The missing years - when did she move to London and what was she doing, her marriage to George Green, any information on George Green and his death (he must have died before 1887 as she is mentioned as a widow), any other children, etc.

Any information would be most appreciated,

sandir03

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Re: George Green married to Wilkie Plews
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 05:44 GMT (UK) »
1881  Living in Lambeth???

Wilkie Green 44 Widow b Dalkeith Midlothian   Lodging House Keeper
Henry W Green    14 Son b Fulham
Richard Bord 51 Boarder
Rose Francis 20 Boarder
Robert Moore 2 Boarder

Kay

Added -Looking at the marriage of Henry Wilkie Green in 1888 - one witness was Henry William Green and also Alice??  Green   Father listed as George Green - House Steward

GRO Birth Index   Henry William Green     Mother's Maiden Name - PLEWS
GRO Ref  March Qtr 1867  KENSINGTON  Vol 01A  Page 194

Also GRO Birth Index    James Green     Mother's Maiden Surname - PLEWS
 March Qtr 1863  MARYLEBONE  Vol 01A  Page 483
 

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Re: George Green married to Wilkie Plews
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 08:09 GMT (UK) »
Possible for George Green

1861
George Green Servant Unmarried  31    Butler    b Tetworth. Hampshire
Working at 54, Grosvenor Street, St George Hanover Square

In later census years I think  possibly as born Tetworth Huntingdonshire - In 1891 possibly listed as a Club Steward with wife Mary A  and children living in Westminster but his age is 10 years out  :-\   so unlikely to be him

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Re: George Green married to Wilkie Plews
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 March 17 01:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kay,
       Thanks very much for the info you have found for me.
       I did a few checks in FamilySearch and found the following for a Henry Wilkie Green – whether he is the same person you mentioned above??  The following dates here are conflicting - 

1)   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1W-NLTQ
Henry Wilkie Green (trade – joiner), wife Fanny  – Christening of Dau. Ada May Green on 16 October 1889 at St Matthew, Arwick, Lancashhire, England

2)   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2JF2-YDD
Henry Wilkie Green, Death Oct – Dec 1890, At St George Hanover Square, London, England

3)   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMHH-7B9
Henry Wilkie Green (trade – joiner), wife Fanny  – Christening of Dau. Florence Cecilia Green on 03 March 1897 at St Silas, Arwick, Lancashhire, England

4)   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBF-Y8Y
 Henry Wilkie Green – 1911 Census in South Manchester  – aged 44 – Birthplace: Manchester Ardwick, Lancashire


Still can’t find any information on George Green (guessing he was born abt. 1830) - I'll chase up on Tetworth and Mary A.  Maybe he remarried after Wilkie Plews died in Scotland in 1887?

Are there any records on the marriage to Wilkie Plews?


Sandi



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Re: George Green married to Wilkie Plews
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 March 17 05:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandi

Sadly I don't think the Henry Wilkie Green you posted is the child of George and Wilkie.    Your Henry William Green was born 1867 in Kensington based on the GRO Birth Index with mothers maiden name Plews

The Henry Wilkie Green born 1866 in Ardwick Manchester is listed on the GRO Birth Index at Henry Wilkie Green with mother's maiden name Bolderson not Plews (March Qtr 1867  Chorlton  Vol 08C  Page 574)

I can't see a marriage for a George Green and Wilkie -they may not have married

I think the George Green I posted in 1861 was in 1871 listed George Green age  40 born Tetworth Hampshire working in Kensington as a domestic servant for a retired colonel  although his birthplace is transcribed at Huntingdonshire on Family Search and looking at this image it could well be https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBDM-84B

This could be George and family 1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q273-X94F and as George's age varies in census years it does look like he could well be the George Green I originally posted in 1861.   However it is only a guess that he is the partner of your Wilkie.   Maybe a birth cert of one of Wilkie's children might help??

Kay

Added - The GRO Birth Index lists George and Mary Ann eldest child Maud b 1879 St. Geo. H. Sq. with mothers maiden name Boyton and there is a marriage of a George Green/Mary Ann Boyton - Jun Qtr 1876   St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a    608