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Offline Jean Price

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Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
« on: Thursday 16 March 17 06:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello All,
Doing a bit of research for another family member.
Elizabeth Phoebe (Bessie) married John Little, a blacksmith of Woodend, North Canterbury, in 1895, and had 4 children.
Died March 1939 and buried at Bromley, Christchurch.
Burial record says she had lived in NZ for 62 years which means that she arrived aged 8 in 1877 or thereabouts.
Family member thinks she came from the USA.
Can anyone help with her parents names, and arrival.
Thank you
Jean
Fawcett, Down; Gibson, Ayrshire and Tasmania; James, Cornwall and Victoria Aus; Cox, Northamptonshire, Thomas, Gloucestershire; Albury, Berkshire,

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Re: Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 March 17 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Jean Price
...help with her parents names

...she came from the USA.

Hello Jean...

A possibility...

Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBYD-FX7

Right name, right age and right country.

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Did she have a twin who died young?

Katie Jane ROSS - Birth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V1MX-X6L

Katie ROSS - Death
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6BW-644

Regards
Beg

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Re: Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 March 17 10:12 GMT (UK) »
Your best bet for details of her parents etc would be her marriage printout.


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Re: Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 March 17 14:48 GMT (UK) »
If you search NZ BMD there are other Children for a JOHN/SARAH Ross;
Hugh Benjamin 1878
John Alexander 1880
Lillian 1881
Ann Fraser 1885
Possibly the same Family.


Trish :)
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Re: Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 March 17 20:54 GMT (UK) »
If you search NZ BMD there are other Children for a JOHN/SARAH Ross;
Hugh Benjamin 1878
John Alexander 1880
Lillian 1881
Ann Fraser 1885
Possibly the same Family.


Trish :)

Elimination:

Above family well documented in family trees :   

John ROSS (b. SCO) married Sarah JOHNSON (b. Middlesex, ENG) - 1877  - at Waipukurau, Hawke's Bay.   Children (as listed ^) all born at Napier or Hastings.
Family moved to Australia, late 1886 (another dau. born Aus).
All died in Australia.

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Re: Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 March 17 02:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you every one, especially Beg. I obviously still cant find my way around Family Search.

Regards
Jean
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Re: Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 March 17 08:15 GMT (UK) »
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Elizabeth Phoebe (Bessie) ROSS

Hi again...

Being born in 1868 you might expect your lady to appear in the 1870 US census but the best I can find is the following...

1870 US Census
Lines 33 to 36

http://tinyurl.com/knfv5b6

And as the1870 census mentions a nine year old son born in Pennsylvania there's a chance John and Sarah would have been there for the 1860 US census.

Again, the best I can find is the following...

1860 US Census
Lines 15 and 16

http://tinyurl.com/n7cs252

The 1860 census says John and Sarah married that year which would tie in with the above Joseph F ROSS being born in 1861.

And they seem to be living with a THOMSON family - maybe Sarah's siblings?

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All speculation. Grain of salt :-)

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Beg

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Re: Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 March 17 14:47 GMT (UK) »
There is an Elizabeth Ross here arriving into Canterbury in 1877 aged 8, mother Sarah, also a sister Mary
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6987-Q7V?mode=g&i=20&cc=1609792

AHA:
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/GRAHAM.Christchurch.Library.Marriages.html
marriage of a Sarah Ross, Southbrook, she born Ireland but in 1899 marital status given as "living under deed of legal separation in Philadelphia in 1876"

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9V-VKVR
 - will of David Graham (Sarah's second husband) leaves money to his stepdaughters, Elizabeth Phoebe Little and Mary Ann Little - did they marry brothers?
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Re: Elizabeth Phoebe ROSS
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 March 17 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Nice find :-)

Quote from: jorose
also a sister Mary
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Mary Ann LITTLE

Here is the sister Mary's birth record...

Mary Ann ROSS
http://tinyurl.com/mtkctla

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Quote from: jorose
marriage of a Sarah Ross, Southbrook, she born Ireland

Sarah's parents are given as Joseph and Elizabeth THOMPSON so that may well be the correct John and Sarah ROSS in the 1860 census, that I mentioned above. They were living with a THOMSON family.

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Beg