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William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth
« on: Wednesday 22 March 17 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

I've been looking at my paternal great grandfather, William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth.

I was hoping someone might be able to have a look at army service records for me and get a military number and regiment so I can search further for him.

He was married to Mary Ann Carruthers in 1913 in Newcastle so she may be on as a next of kin, if it is him I can pop to the library at the weekend.


Thanks for the help,

Michael

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Dale (Newcastle Upon Tyne), Beck, English, Hall, Harrison, Stephenson (all from the North Shields, South Shields area), Woodger (from the Newcastle and Liss areas)

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Re: William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 March 17 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Did he have children Jess Robert & Elsie Isabel

457624  451 Coy R.E  - It is a casualty form/ medical records some pages appear to have bits cut off  ::)

Just checked childrens birth reg it seems to match though Jess should be James

Ancestry has medal cards I will leave them to you to look at

TNA also has medal card but I believe they are only what you can access on Ancestry
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D2068315

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Re: William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 March 17 09:59 GMT (UK) »
His discharge records are on both of the major subscription sites, though one doesn't give his birth place in the search results, its one of 8 results for an exact name search in WW1 Service Records. When you get so few results, some of which are easily discountable from the limited info in the results, its worth looking at the others in detail to see if you can find what you are looking for..

Another option is to use Family Search which gives a basic details transcription including his service number and birthplace.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBL-2NKS

 You can't see the images on Family Search unless you are a church member or are at a family history centre, but that detail would enable you to look further on a subscription site either from a personal sub or at the library.

Where did you get his birth year from? I looked on FreeBMD and the only likely registration was Q2 1889 (not 1890) in Castle Ward which was the registration district for Gosforth.
Checking on the GRO site gives a mother's maiden name of Reavley if that's of help.



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Re: William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 March 17 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the help Boo,

This is driving me crazy now, I have tried an exact search on William Thomas Dale in the military records on Ancestry with a birth year of 1889 (+/- 1 year) and I'm just not finding the record you are referring to.

I have used the family search site quite a lot for BMD details but had no idea there was a military section, I might have to redo a lot of searches on there now. How do I search it? I am a member of the site.

I got the birth year from a simple bit of maths from a census I was looking at, nothing more than that so I'm sure you are correct about that, especially as Reavley was his mothers maiden name, Isabella Reavley.

Thanks again for the help,

Michael
Dale (Newcastle Upon Tyne), Beck, English, Hall, Harrison, Stephenson (all from the North Shields, South Shields area), Woodger (from the Newcastle and Liss areas)


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Re: William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 March 17 11:10 GMT (UK) »
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Re: William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 March 17 11:12 GMT (UK) »
try the search without the year of birth  - just the exact name, sometimes less is more :-)

for Family Search,

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?page=1&region=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

All sorts of good stuff in there.

Scroll down through the list and you'll see the United Kingdom World War One Service Records, clicking on that link will take you to the search page.


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Re: William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 March 17 11:21 GMT (UK) »
You need to search in British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Simply use the regimental number already provided via Family Search.
You will get one hit  ;)
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Re: William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 March 17 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all so much for the help, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

I have the record now (thanks for the link Rosie) and can get it searching on the service number in the WW1 Service Records category as JenB suggested but unless you know the record is there and have the number I would have missed it.

Boo, I have tried searching on William Thomas Dale with the exact match and nothing else, but he just isn't coming up. I have had this in the past with other searches where I've had a record for someone and then 20 minutes later just can't find them at all.

I must be doing something wrong so I think I might leave it for a bit and then try again. I'm determined to find him using the name search, especially as I know the record is there, I need to learn from this so I don't miss future records.

Thanks for the help with family search, I can see that is going to be my weekend gone now. There is so much on there I had no idea about.

Thanks again everyone,

Michael
Dale (Newcastle Upon Tyne), Beck, English, Hall, Harrison, Stephenson (all from the North Shields, South Shields area), Woodger (from the Newcastle and Liss areas)

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Re: William Thomas DALE, born 1890 in Gosforth
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 March 17 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Boo, I have tried searching on William Thomas Dale with the exact match and nothing else, but he just isn't coming up.

I've just done the search Boo mentions, i.e. William Thomas Dale, exact match, adding in nothing else at all.
He does come up on the first page, British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920, but the only other thing it says is 'Residence 1919'.

Edit:
Just adding in a quote from what Boo said earlier

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His discharge records are on both of the major subscription sites, though one doesn't give his birth place in the search results, its one of 8 results for an exact name search in WW1 Service Records. When you get so few results, some of which are easily discountable from the limited info in the results, its worth looking at the others in detail to see if you can find what you are looking for..


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