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Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 01:46 BST (UK) »
I'm amazed by this, I've never seen anything like it.

I'm sure we've all come across a multitude of interesting terms being used on baptism records for illegitimate children (usually pre-1813)...but on a census?  ;D
Thorpe, Feak & Townsend (Norfolk) / Ormandy & Slater (Dalton-in-Furness) / Corner (Liverpool) / Wray (Lincolnshire) / Fidler, Bridge & Turner (Derbyshire)

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Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 16:44 BST (UK) »
In my tree I have one woman described as paramour - a couple of prostitutes - and a few children who are "supposed" daughter or son

It certainly is interesting -especially when your family are very religious !!!!

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 17:07 BST (UK) »
a few children who are "supposed" daughter or son

Suz

 ;D  ;D Now, was that the 'supposed' father's words  ???

If it was the mother then that would be a huge problem  ::)

Apologies to UD 'OP' (a bit off topic) but funny  :D

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 17:13 BST (UK) »
No problem. I am as amused as the rest of you. Not sure I ever thought a mason's cottage could be a den of iniquity!


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Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 17:20 BST (UK) »
Possible older child who may have died.......
Transcription a bit wonky but could fit possibly (if it is an error)  ???
Richard Terkeet Sheer
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2N3T-D2P
probably not the mason's family - found this baptism:
Name:   Richard Tarkitt Sheer
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   27 Oct 1842
Baptism Place:   Tywardreath,Cornwall,England
Father:   John Sheer
Mother:   Jane
FHL Film Number:   254172
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 17:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks UD  ;D

My genealogy thoughts are....

Be prepared for anything, discard/disregard nothing   :D

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 17:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks Josey,

At least it eliminates a possible  ;)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 17:32 BST (UK) »
It does indeed. I am currently skipping back through the generations getting basic dates for this branch. Then the fun searches begin- court, prison and transportation records!

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Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 17:52 BST (UK) »
I'm so envious UD as I have nothing 'exciting' in my tree.

As long as you keep your Downside Up ;D

I have one who was convicted of Manslaughter for the death of his own mother!
The mother murdered was my father's 1st cousin (parents were brother & sister)!

My father was still alive when this happened but needless to say, I didn't tell him about it!

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"