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British Home Children - 5 siblings
« on: Saturday 22 April 17 00:19 BST (UK) »
My ancestor's nephew James Greaves, Jr., of Birmingham, Warwickshire, England, had 9 children.  His wife died when the youngest was a little over a year old and the oldest 18 years.  James was an invalid from the affects of war, and became a patient in the workhouse infirmary.

The 3 oldest sons: Percy James, Cecil George, & Joseph Clarence were able to take care of themselves.  The next 5: Violet Alicia Agnes, Daisy Louisa Jane, Charles Arthur Edward, Nellie Elizabeth Rose, & Lily Ethel were sent to Nova Scotia, Canada, in 1901.  The youngest Elizabeth May was adopted by a family in England.

I am having a hard time tracing Nellie Elizabeth Rose Greaves, born 26 Nov 1894, in Aston or Birmingham, Warwickshire, England.  She married David James Cota, 29 Oct 1918, in Frontenac, Ontario, Canada.  When David James Cota died 14 Aug 1935, in Hastings, Ontario, Canada, his wife was listed as Ethel Cota.  So what happened to Nellie?  One tree says Nellie married an "unknown Spicer." 

The 1949 Canada, Voters List for Hastings South, Ontario, #345 & #346 are: William Spicer, guard, 9 Dundas St. W. & Mrs. Nellie Spicer, 9 Dundas St. W.  Another family tree has a William Francis Spicer (1882-1921) who also lived in Trenton, Hastings, Ontario, Canada, married after the 1921 census to a "Cote."

I correspond with a grandniece of the 5 children who went to Canada.  She just learned about them being sent to Canada and would like to know what happened to them. 

The youngest Elizabeth May married Robert Astle in Birmingham, England.  After Robert died in 1952, she went to Canada, where it is believed she remained.  She sailed from Liverpool, England, 25 Nov 1952, to Halifax, Canada, on the ship Ascania.   I would love to find her also.  She was born 17 October 1899, in Aston or Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Waddoups - Northampton; Greaves/Gleaves- Birmingham; Sutton & Willie - Somerset & Devon; Sweeten/Sweeton - Ireland; Robert McKenzie - Scots Greys; Bradney/Bradley - Shropshire & Stafford; Aaron & Moses Williams - Pontesbury, Shropshire & Abersychan, Monmouth; Barham, Farnes, & Isacke - London; Odense County, Denmark; Gausdal, Oppland, Norway.

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Re: British Home Children - 5 siblings
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 April 17 06:49 BST (UK) »
I think this might be the missing Nellie, but it list her as "Nellie Graves Spicer" and her husband as "William Franklin Spicer."
http://www.canadianheadstones.com/on/view.php?id=93660
Waddoups - Northampton; Greaves/Gleaves- Birmingham; Sutton & Willie - Somerset & Devon; Sweeten/Sweeton - Ireland; Robert McKenzie - Scots Greys; Bradney/Bradley - Shropshire & Stafford; Aaron & Moses Williams - Pontesbury, Shropshire & Abersychan, Monmouth; Barham, Farnes, & Isacke - London; Odense County, Denmark; Gausdal, Oppland, Norway.

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 April 17 09:35 BST (UK) »
Outward passenger list for Violet Greaves 1901

There is a border crossing Canada to the USA - Violet Greaves born 1888 Birmingham England - arriving 10 September 1906 - Vanceboro, Maine un der the new name Violet Lynds Harrold/Violet Harold Lynds.  Domestic - now resides Popolastic Street Medway Massachusetts. (certificate of lawful entry 198347 sent to Boston 24/8/1942.

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 April 17 09:41 BST (UK) »
Massachusetts, State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1798-1950 - Violet Greaves - Violet Harrold born 29 February 1888 Birmingham England  - aged 54 - arrival  Vanceboro, Maine 10 September 1906 - Petition  Boston, Massachusetts 4 January 1943 - Spouse William. Present address Popolastic Street Medway Norfolk - laundry worker. Married husband William 8 April 1931 - Medway Massachusetts - William was born Orkney Scotland 2 February 1871 and entered US at Boston MA in 1890. William naturalized 15 September 1930.
My last place of foreign residence was Points West Bay Nova Scotia

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 April 17 09:45 BST (UK) »
1940 Census Popolatic Street Medway, Norfolk, Massachusetts.

William R Harrold 69 Born Scotland 1871.
Violet Harrold   52 Born England 1888. Alien.
Sidney Harrold   15 Born MA 1925.
Judith A Vere   2 Born MA 1938. Single. Boarder.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 April 17 09:46 BST (UK) »
Violet L Harrold - 1888 - 1985

FIND A GRAVE


Burial: Oakland Cemetery  Medway Norfolk County Massachusetts.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=120248937

Husband -  William Rendell Harrold 1871 - 1947

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=120248936

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 April 17 09:52 BST (UK) »
Daisy Louise Jane Greaves born 1892 married Harvey Wallace Faulkner 6 April 1921 Halifax Nova Scotia. Daisy was 29 years. Harvey was 32 years.

1911 census -    160 Liverpool Rd Halifax Nova Scotia - Daisy Greaves - ages 21 - born February 1890
listed below the Strachan family.

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 April 17 09:55 BST (UK) »
Canada Voters List - 1953 - 152 Manor Road East Toronto - Eglington District - Mrs Elizabeth Astle - Widow -

Canada Voters List 1968 - 165 Manor Road East Toronto - Elizabeth Astle - Unemployed.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 April 17 10:02 BST (UK) »
The marriage for Nellie Greaves born 1895 Birmingham to David James Cota lists her father as Cecil G Greaves and mother Agnes E Champman Greaves.  Cecil G Greaves was her brother.

1921 census Henry Street Trenton Town Hastings Ontario

David Cota   25
Nellie Cota   24 Born England.
Charles Cota 1 born Ontario.

Canada Voters Lists 1949 shows Nellie Spicer - 9 Dundas Street Hastings Ontario - also William Spicer (guard)

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